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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 118 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"he’d already aroused suspicion by interrupting a meandering discussion of principles with a straightforward plan of action."

I feel seen.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

a) Organizations and Conferences

  1. Insist on doing everything through “channels.” Never permit short-cuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions.
  2. Make “speeches.” Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your “points” by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences. Never hesitate to make a few appropriate “patriotic” comments.
  3. When possible, refer all matters to committees, for “further study and consideration.” Attempt to make the committees as large as possible—never less than five.
  4. Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
  5. Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.
  6. Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.
  7. Advocate “caution.” Be “reasonable” and urge your fellow-conferees to be “reasonable” and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.
  8. Be worried about the propriety of any decision—raise the question of whether such action as is contemplated lies within the jurisdiction of the group or whether it might conflict with the policy of some higher echelon.-
[–] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

The best part is by publishing this far and wide, anybody pushing for “careful consideration” and actual reasoned planning is immediately suspect, which leads to less reasoned decisions, which usually means more mistakes. If a victory is somehow won through violence of action and not careful planning, the support structure isn’t there to maintain the victory, nor are the people who win that victory well-suited to careful planning before the next engagement. The boring stuff is often what wins wars, simple things like plenty of fuel, adequate hygiene facilities, and dry socks can literally mean the difference between a division surrendering or winning a battle.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Wow, that's literally what Maxim Katz in Opposition Council did

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[–] seahorse@midwest.social 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Left-wing groups: disorganized

Right-wing groups: incredibly bad at opsec

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

Can't have bad opsec if you don't have an op to sec.

[–] Dippy 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Gods trying to get my friends to think about pushing politicians leftward on the scale of 4/6/8 years pissed them off. They will only focus efforts on yelling at Biden to drop out as if it will happen or help. They don't care that no world exists where they are remotely happy in nov 2024, that's the only thing they can think about

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is where the old adage "Don't let perfect stand in the way of progress" applies.

Biden may not even be considered progress by some, but at least he's not a rapid sprint backwards into fascism.

[–] Dippy 3 points 8 months ago
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Part of the problem the left currently faces, regardless of revolutionary thought in general, is that environmental concerns are past the election cycle.

It is already too late to stop global warming at the 1.5 C target suggested in 2018.

Gradual reform will be too late. There is no way around it, we are acting too slow, and even if every country in the world flipped Green or whatever in 2028 that might still be too late.

[–] Dippy 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Too late" is the exact language the fossil fuel execs want you to use. Even if specific targets are passed, every fraction of a degree matters. Stopping warming at 2 is better than 2.1 so if electing Biden puts us on the 2°c track thats better, and maybe the 2028 candidate can put us on the 1.8°C track. Thats a difference worth fighting for

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 8 months ago

Only if you see "gradual reform is too slow" and think "well that's all the options then!"

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

At least some believe that it was already too late in 2014 and our estimates are lagging about a decade. Not sure I believe that, but if true, it's even more important to take action ASAP.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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To be fair, the journey of a thousand miles does - or at least should - not begin with a single step, but rather with figuring out which direction to go in.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

I want to add much more detail to my own reply, so here goes:

I recall a story that I read on the site-that-shall-not-be-named where this guy ran a business, and he tried to be part of the solution but after dealing with people's dumb-shitty-STUPIDNESS he just gave up. The issue is that due to capitalism, many pricing structures in the USA are enormously opaque with tons of hidden fees (like internet service for "$5" - plus also $100 in fees that they don't tell you about in advance). Rather than a price such as "$1.99 + tax", which depending on area could be I dunno lets say $2.17, he instead sold his wares (whatever they were) for "$2 flat". So not only did he single-handedly fix the opaqueness issue, at least in his own business, but he offered the item for LESS than the competition.

But... - can you spot where this is going? - people chose the $1.99 + tax option, b/c when you sort online by "price", 1.99 + tax shows up above the $2 flat price, even when the former is actually $2.17 after tax so the latter is significantly lower cost.

i.e., There are REASONS for why things are the way they are. And we ignore these at our peril. Case in point: Trump did not "win" in 2016 so much as Hillary Clinton lost. And now we are going to try the same experiment again in 2024... Trump vs. democracy. All they have to do is keep playing the Russian Roulette game - the odds are, after all, in their favor.

So back to this aforementioned business guy: he gave up. I think he went out of business entirely rather than just caving in to do the same pricing structures that everyone else did. He apparently could not both fight the system and win, so he lost both instead.

But that begs the question: if he had just "advertised" his "prices" as $1.82 (or whatever price would, when combined with taxes, even out to $2 flat) online, but then when people walk in the door there are signs saying like "just pay $2 flat", could he have succeeded? i.e., if he had flexed just a little, would it have saved his business? We will never know I suppose, nor am I advocating for caving in especially as it pertains to ethical matters - I have walked away from jobs rather than cave on such a line, so I mean it when I say that I am NOT suggesting to do so at all costs!!!!!

It is not enough to have a desire to save the world, or even your own little corner of it. THEY won't let you. I think that is why liberals fight amongst ourselves so much though: b/c while it is SO VERY EASY to fail, it is so very hard to get an answer correct. Like to the question of "what is 1+1=?", there are so MANY wrong answers, but only one CORRECT one. And even fewer when you factor in economic and other business necessities.

That is why I am super impressed with the job that Biden is doing. Walking that tightrope is HARD. But the media does not seem to report on half of the positive stuff that he does, so I fear that Trump will win this next election as a result. It is not enough to make the hard calls - you apparently also have to be the right kind of clown that drives clickbait engagement media stats that brings media corps higher profits too. All I know is that whatever comes next, we absolutely seem to deserve all of it, b/c we brought this on ourselves.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

is that windows 7 💀

[–] parens@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

Is this even satire? It's true

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

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