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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Why I should never retire: because I'll starve on the street. Unfortunately I'm getting old enough that no one is going to want to employ me. So I guess I'll starve on the street and serve as an incentive to others to work harder for the man.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago

You're ahead of your time. The trend of most of our futures right here.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Cruises and golf? What a shallow, sad view of retirement. My uncle goes to Florida in the winter and fishes off of various docks and camps, and spends time with his grandkids, and ducks around with gadgets the rest of the year.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

They're cliches that only apply to affluent boomers.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

When I worked at a bank I went to a work-sponsored golf outing and it was both way more fun and required way more physical effort than I was anticipating. I'm not going to go out of my way to go golfing again but I certainly won't turn down an invite if I'm ever invited golfing again

[–] MiddledAgedGuy 20 points 9 months ago

Pleasure cruises, golf and tracing the family tree are not that fulfilling

I agree with this opinion.

... you should never retire.

I'd retire tomorrow if I had the financial security to do so.

[–] pifox@pawb.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know a guy who left retirement because he felt purposeless. The reason we likely hate work is because we have to do it.

If I knew I didn't have to worry about money, I would consider focusing on my tech career as it's something to do rather than worrying about how to keep a job. Maybe focus on charity maybe.

Definitely keep saving for retirement, last thing you need is to HAVE TO WORK for the rest of your life.

[–] hangukdise@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

I'm with you. Aimless wandering through night and day, and consuming stuff to distract from the lack of direction in life is pleasing only to a certain point.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's not what gaslighting means, OP.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's one of those terms people are so rabidly eager to use that any excuse will do. Look at what happened to 'reboot'.

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[–] Scary_le_Poo 2 points 9 months ago

Gaslighting doesn't exist, you're just crazy.

[–] havid_dume@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait, it's a column called Bartleby about working more than you want to?

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

I would prefer not to consider this angle.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This has got to be satire right?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

My parents have spent the decades of their retirements volunteering and helping their neighbors.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago

Even the person in their little splash graphic looks like they're hiding their pain

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

One of the reasons I decided to leave the US. Yes, the Economist is British but the US has the same problem. I realized chances are I will never save enough for retirement, my 401k planner even says so. So I am moving back to the country that allowed my father to retire in his 50s. 10 years ago when I started working in the US I didn’t expect this outcome, and the longer I stay here the longer it will take me to improve my conditions.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where'd you go? Can my family come too?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry. It isn’t a country that anyone can just move to. It has many serious flaws and is not pleasant for people from different backgrounds. But it did allow my father to retire in his 50s and my uncles to retire in their 60s. But if you are willing to play along, and keep your thoughts to yourself, you do get a lot for free from education to healthcare and it is affordable to live in, and foreigners do manage to save here. Oh no income tax either.

If you are curious https://youtu.be/r3bgQMVsCH0

[–] noctisatrae 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes the polluting country of assholes where they have no respect for women? Love this country /s

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It isn’t perfect. Far from it, but every woman is entitled to free healthcare including most foreigners except very high earners.

And we are not that bad compared to some US states if you can trust American Progress https://www.americanprogress.org/article/authoritarian-regimes-have-more-progressive-abortion-policies-than-some-u-s-states/

Weird that you accuse us of being polluters when our impact historically, currently and cumulatively is nowhere near the US or most countries. https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2

I did qualify my post that it isn’t for everyone. I am of the culture, I understand it, and I know how to function in it.

[–] olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Not working, however, is quite fulfilling.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

That's not 'gaslighting'?

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think its good to keep working, but only doing the things that you actually enjoy or have value outside of a paycheck. When I "retired" I found it kind of hollow and it was not all it was supposed to be.

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think that's called having a hobby

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I'd personally love to see retired people getting into DnD for the first time. I imagine if everyone is retired it'd be easier to schedule out.