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Democrats Vote Down Trans Refuge Bill In Maine After Right-Wing Attacks (www.erininthemorning.com)
submitted 10 months ago by PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca to c/transgender@lemmy.ml
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[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

In the Thursday working session, Representative Matt Moonen stated that some of the language in the bill that has come under attack “did not further the goals” intended of the bill and moved that the bill “ought not to pass,” essentially recommending that his own bill be killed in committee.

This doesn't sounds like a dead issue. It sounds like the bill had some potential problems and they want to touch it up before sending it to the floor to be passed. Maine can still get its trans refuge state status. Not that that is going to stop the right-wing from lying about it, of course.

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This kinda stuff I think about when people say. Just vote blue.

[–] muse@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Well voting red is definitely not going to be better, and not voting or throwing my vote away to a third party is the same as voting red.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool that you don't care about using even the minuscule amount of power you hold in a democracy to vote for something better. That position makes you the bad guy btw.

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

I'll be spending my trans ass time setting up mutual aid for food, housing and meds for all I can. You can vote for whatever wealthy fuck you want. We don't live in a democracy. We live in a republic with a fascist ideology. What's the headcount of babies in cages after biden? More than Trump. They are all the same, Fascist bastards. The Democrats are no better they just hide it better. I'm not saying don't do anything, just that the liberal is the same as the rest. And focus on something helpful instead of a cult of blue hoping checking a box will save people.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Voting for a third party is simultaneously voting blue and red, if you listen to the blues they tell you it's a red vote while the reds are in your other ear complaining you just voted blue. The fact that it pisses off both the republicans and the democrats frankly is an indication that I have made the correct decision.

[–] LallyLuckFarm 4 points 10 months ago

Gia Drew, Executive Director of Equality Maine, stated in an interview with Erin In The Morning that the bill was “probably not the right fit” for Maine and that “the climate has changed” over the issue, pointing to some of the complexities within the bill as well as outside disinformation attacks. When asked why the bill wasn’t amended to make it a better fit, she stated that she did not know why that route was not chosen.

Drew did express hope, however, for future versions of the legislation and pointed to prior successes, stating, “We were able to pass one of the most historic laws last year in that same committee.” The state had previously passed a law that allowed trans youth above the age of 16 to consent to gender affirming care without parental approval.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Politics is similar to the ecological structure and development of a forest. You begin with grasses which shield fledgling shrubs from the elements. The shrubs eventually push out the grass and make way for trees that push out the shrubs and then trees that push out the earlier trees. Then fire and flooding that brings you back to step 2.5. Focus on trees after you slit the stem of every single shrub and hope fire doesn’t set you back after.

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Fire is actually beneficial to forests. It burns away the grass so fast growing tree saplings can grow.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In a vacuum, absolutely. With human meddling inadvertently causing hotter, longer, broader, and more frequent fires, natural fires can cause a full or partial reset more frequently. Except in aus. Eucalyptus is future-proof. Just like politics, ecology finds people are the problem.

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This such a white western take. Indigenous peoples all around the world have been using fire to benefit ecology. People are not the problem. White fascist, colonial actions and ideals are the issue.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like your point would be more poignant without the racism but I agree?

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah cause reverse racism exists and talking about the history of the world and how your view point is clearly skewed by racism colonialism and white fascism is totally racism in of itself.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of a conversation I had a decade ago about “reverse rape.” It’s just rape. Academic study of racism hasn’t made “power+prejudice” the de facto definition and, as a result, it’s ostensibly racist to say “white western take.” I say this, once again, while agreeing with you.

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can't be racist towards white people sry. Nice job bringing up rape tho

[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Just came across this post randomly, and I've gotta commend you on the dryness of your wit. Saying something so patently absurd and hypocritical as

You can't be racist against white people

while keeping a straight face. Quality comedy.

Or you're just a racist piece of shit.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I think I’m just gonna leave you be, internet stranger. Good luck with… whatever this was meant to be.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"we care about you!..... As long as it's not inconvenient..."

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"But you'll vote for us anyway, lol. "

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

"We aren't killing you but we're not particularly worried about them killing you.... Vote for us!"

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[–] AnotherAttorney@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It proposed allowing judges jurisdiction over cases involving their presence in the state and also included measures to protect parents in custody disputes where one parent consents to the child receiving care and the other does not.

So it would give legal shelter to a parent that, in spite of the other’s non-consent and without preexisting legal authorization, goes and has a gender-affirming medical procedure performed on their child? Yeah, hard pass bro.