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[–] TedJ70@aussie.zone 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'll need to lift their game on software updates for that to happen. Many of their handsets ship with an outdated version of Android, and they rarely see more than one major update.

This is what caused me to switch off Motorola. Their Moto Z phone with the magnet attachment thing was badass. But it was 2 major android versions behind, and was no longer receiving security updated by the third year I owned it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Custom ROMs work well on supported devices.

[–] TedJ70@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No doubt, but custom ROMs aren't on your average buyers radar.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, although as far as I can tell they are getting a bit more popular on pixels as more people seek privacy.

Still pennies though

[–] jcarax 3 points 1 year ago

Even if they are, it's a drop in the bucket. And I imagine they're less popular now than they were in the early days of Android, during the height of Cyanogen Mod, and others.

I say this as a Graphene user.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

TLDR: They think they'll convert a large enough portion of the premium market (in specific geographic markets) that it'll put them into the top three.

Zielinski said most of the users for the Razr smartphone have converted from using a device that is “not Android based.”

Part of the growth strategy revolves around the premium segment of the market, in which Apple and Samsung dominate.

“We’re going to place as many bets as we can because we think the growth of the Indian population is fantastic, and they’re wonderful people.”

I wouldn't buy another piece of Motorola/Lenovo garbage for any amount of money.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, didn't know Lenovo bought Motorola

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

They bought Motorola Mobility switch is a totally different company

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lenovo laptops are trash so I imagine their phones would be trash too. I'll stick to Pixel.

[–] ethd 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ThinkPads are often (but not always) great, but I'd otherwise 100% agree.

Motorola hasn't had a smartphone I've been interested in since the first-gen Moto X, and they were owned by Google at that time

[–] vanderbilt 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The old ones are good, but the newer ones are disappointing. I had a 9th gen X1 specced out and it was unusable for development. It would thermal throttle after only 2 minutes on anything more than 40% CPU. Keyboard was nice and screen was ok, but the thermals and battery life was horrible.

[–] ethd 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I absolutely had the X1 in my sights when I said they weren't always great. It's a laptop line that somehow misses every point of why people buy ThinkPads in the first place but because it looks good reviewers eat it up.

…Though you're absolutely correct that this problem is getting worse with newer models besides the X1 chasing whatever reviewers liked about the X1 line.

[–] vanderbilt 1 points 1 year ago

I was baffled because none of the reviews mentioned it. Did they seriously not try anything demanding to run on it and not notice the problems? I spent nearly as much on it as my Mac and I somehow got something even slower than it. I just want a business class Linux laptop that doesn’t suck.

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am never going to buy a phone from a company with strong ties with the CCP, and a history of installing spyware on its products.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you got any sources for Motorola phones coming with spyware on them?

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"The Chinese computer manufacturer Lenovo has been sentenced in the USA to pay USD 3.5 m as a fine for installing malware and adware (Superfish) on its laptops without informing its customers. By doing so, Lenovo committed the offence of computer break-in, as it wilfully undermined the security of its computers for users and made them vulnerable to cyber attacks."

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2017-005922_EN.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2022/12/28/as-china-tech-crackdown-continues-dont-overlook-the-danger-of-lenovo/?sh=5d27e6f25d72

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45756685

You are probably going to say "but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones".

Lenovo owns Motorola. If you want to trust the company feel free to do so.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are probably going to say "but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones".

I asked for sources on Motorola phones being compromised, but I ain't seeing that still?

Aspersions don't equal anecdotes > evidence. You show me that and I'll shout louder than you.

[–] con_fig@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info, I was not aware