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[–] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We love getting the refund. After making a concerted effort to install a heat pump myself and purchase an affordable EV it helps pay for about a month’s worth of electricity each time we get it. We don’t consume any carbon based fuels at our home any longer. So it’s a big bonus for us. Next up is solar panels I think.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What do you do for water heating?

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Electric hot water tanks are a thing. So are electric tankless systems.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm aware but I haven't heard people's experiences with them. I ask because I'm shopping for water heating right now and debating the expense of getting 240 run to the water heater for a heat pump.

Electric tankless sounds impossible (yes, I know they exist, I just mean they don't sound like something that should be able to), since the amount of BTUs required to run a gas tankless at peak is absolutely nuts -- tankless gas water-heaters run on 3/4" pipe instead of the normal 1/2" since they need to have so much burst heat. That doesn't sound possible for electric.

[–] pbjamm 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A whole house model will need a 100A circuit to itself. You could install small units in each location that needs hot water but that is also expensive.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Holy crap like 24000W of juice on tap. That is not screwing around. Awesome. A neat option but sounds like something for new builds not retrofitting an older home.

[–] pbjamm 4 points 10 months ago

If you have 200a service to your house then it might be an option but lots of houses (including my own) do not have the capacity.

I really need to upgrade to 200a or get gas heating as my 100a is woefully inadequate when temps are below freezing like now.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If you already haven't, do check out Technology Connections videos on electrifying, he covers old home challenges quite a bit.

I was reminded of him because he talks about the possibility of making a 100A circuitry workout with some smart switching

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I love his videos but I hadn't seen anything about the whole home issue of "omg this is way more power hosue-wide".

The idea of smart switching sounds neat - that would basically mean "you can't run your dryer and have hot water and charge your car at the same time", right? But, like, in an automated way not just "it throws the breaker".

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty much yes, a contraption to make sure you don't surpass your amps without worrying about having it all plugged in

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I doubt that. For a pool you need 40-60amp circuit.

[–] pbjamm 2 points 10 months ago

I mean you could look it up

A pool and a shower are different applications. If the pool takes all day to warm up it is not much of an issue, but you want the shower to be hot right now.

[–] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A month of electricity, won't even cover that now. If I moved to an EV and electric heating my bill would be more insane then it already is.

[–] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

You get to offset gas for your car with less expensive electricity. We save about $100 or more a month in gas. Electric baseboard heating would definitely be expensive. Our oil bill was getting crazy bad, and with the recent inflation it would have been that much worse. Our heat pump keeps things comfortable at home in the winter and summer. If it gets too chilly we can use a space heater as we need. Overall per year we are still saving hundreds going electric.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 13 points 10 months ago

I’ve noticed in Australia that those who watch Murdock press and other right wing media often don’t think renewable programs are working. There is a concerted push to rubbish any idea that the programs work.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

I am an old guy who does not have auto banking set up. I get a cheque every few months.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if it read as "CO2 REB8 LUV FRM JT XX" on bank statements, I don't think Conservatives would believe it.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The issue seems to be fairly non-partisan.

A chart depicting survey responses broken down by who people voted for in the last federal election.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

I did see that chart.

I also know that Canadian Conservatives and US Republicans are campaigning on "feelings don't care about facts" this year, so even if they report having received a rebate, they don't think this incentive is beneficial for both the economy and environment.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The quarterly payments go out to every tax-filing adult household in the eight provinces where the federal carbon tax applies: Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador.

Either these folks are actually missing out because they haven't filed their income taxes, or they're simply not noticing the money when it arrives, or they're mistaking it for some other type of payment from the government.

Underpinning all this is "a failure at the most basic level of retail political communication" by the federal Liberal government about one its flagship policies, says Shachi Kurl, president of the Angus Reid Institute.

She says that may have been a good strategy in 2019, when Canadians saw climate change as a top priority, but the Liberals have failed to adapt their message to 2024, when the cost of living has become a more pressing concern.

In 2022, Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault asked Canadian banks to refer to them as climate action incentive payments, which is the official term the federal government uses.

The money typically goes out on the 15th of January, April, July and October, unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or Sunday or federal holiday, in which case payments are issued on the last business day prior to the 15th.


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[–] Awatto_boi@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes I received a rebate that covers an insignificant fraction of the Carbon taxes that I paid throughout the year.

[–] blottootto@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

I'm interested what you spend your money on that's so Carbon Tax heavy. I live super far North, use 6000l oil to heat my home every year and the rebate I get would cover around 11000l of oil. So 50% of the annual rebate (it's 4 payments per year btw) covers my heating, and 50% covers driving and indirect costs. I also take advantage of grants and rebates for upgrading my home where I can (I don't know if they are funded from Carbon Tax though).