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[–] mlaga97@lemmy.mlaga97.space 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a pretty silly headline for an article that quite clearly states that the issue was with the router's data usage reporting capabilities.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They suspect, but it's hardly clear cut

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Should be something that you rule out long before blaming LG...

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[–] sennheisenberg@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Smart devices are great, but if it's not Zigbee or Zwave and Home Assistant, it can fuck off.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago

I like my devices to be dumb but be able to function without internet.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's possible that it had some vulnerability which was automatically exploited by one of her majesty's secret services (perhaps with help from their US counterparts) to make it a component of their covert infrastructure.

Sounds outlandish, but

this was happening in 2010:

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[–] rar@discuss.online 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I don't understand the craze of slapping wifi or bluetooth connectivity to everything without giving proper thought. Cameras, television, vehicles, coffee pots, medical devices, laundry machines, hipster juicers... what's next? Is my salt shaker going to have it?

[–] cosmic_skillet@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a great idea! You can check your salt levels while at work or on vacation. You could even have your salt shaker automatically order more salt from Amazon when the level got too low. Or how about you program your maximum daily salt intake so it closes up when it's reached.

So much potential!

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

Not even a little far-fetched

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

And the bad part is that it is being forced upon us. You can't even find non-smart TVs to buy anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if appliances come with their own data plan, because the data they collect is valuable.

[–] wintrparkgrl 2 points 10 months ago

The craze is pushed by the manufacturers. They make money off of data mining

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Do not buy BS internet connected devices period. There was a time when internet connected devices did exactly they were supposed to do and nothing more. There is literally no reason why most of these devices can't act as their own server and keep your data local and private. Corporations have become far too greedy to trust their cloud won't sell you out in every way it can. The ONLY two reasons a manufacturer adds internet connectivity are:

  1. To monitor and collect as much data as possible and/or:

  2. To implement a subscription service for something that normally wouldn't require monthly payments.

Corporate closed clouds have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

There is literally no reason why most of these devices can't act as their own server

As much as I dislike cloud stuff. The cloud is by far the easiest solution for support and average users.

Your not dealing with end users calling in and having to diagnose why two devices on their network are not talking to each other.

As long as both your devices have Internet it will work.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My heat pump can be controlled by an app but it all goes through an external web page for some reason so I noped out of it.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How to check this? I've got an LG heat pump..

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 10 months ago

It was in the manual. There's an extra piece you connect inside and an app.

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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you bought a washing machine that needs Internet access you are a fucking idiot.

[–] Deiv@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They don't need wifi, so no, you're not an idiot if you buy one and just leave it disconnected

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why pay for features you aren't going to use?

[–] Deiv@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of them don't have non-wifi variants, at least not that I know of

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago

I have a Speed Queen washer and dryer. Quality products don't rely on gimmicks, they do their job.

[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bloatware has spiraled out of control. It's a consequence of coding becoming easy and accessible. Programming is no longer the domain of idealistic nerds. It is possible for anyone to make garbage tech wares.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, wait, wait. Let's not aim at the wrong thing. Programming becoming accessible is a great, and is not the cause of bloat. Bloat is not even something that can be easily pointed to a single cause, and a lot of things played a role, like poor tech education, companies not giving a fuck and relying on hardware replacement, lack of regulations, big tech corporations having practically monopolies and no incentive to create better products, the high demands of timing for projects, etc.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Not to mention plain old fashioned bad management.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

It’s an older meme sir, but it checks out.

[–] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

woohoo high tech everything is the best

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a clear indication of IoT control being taken over by malicious actor to make it a part of botnet.

Any IoT needs to be secured when connected to Internet (and, not intranet).

[–] survivalmachine 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What exactly in this article indicates that? I feel you're either mis-reading the article or baselessly fear-mongering here.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who would buy a washing machine with internet access? Why? Not feeling like you are giving enoigh of your privacy and personal data to Google or FB or Apple? They should just sign up to TikTok, much cheaper.

[–] labbbb@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 months ago

I don't have even money for such washing machines haha