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cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/550905

Basically, which linux distro is the best for a non-power user? Someone who wants to be able to get up and running without having to learn how to manage the OS using the cli.

Quick example: When I install a new OS, the first thing I want to do is install Brave. That should be as easy as "click on this thing, type in brave, select Brave, install."

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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Offtopic, but I'd steer clear of brave. They feel scammy, have crypto built in and replace ads with their own. Since it's built on chromium it just adds to the market share of chromium and towards a Google controlled internet.

[–] MediaActivist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

And their CEO is a bigot.

[–] Colitas92@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alas, we have reached a point where lots of web stuff already just does not work in non chromium browsers. My father could not use Netflix on Firefox on Linux mint, we called Netflix customer support and they said to install Google chrome. And it then worked. I use opera and it worked for me too. So a chromium browser is needed, for streaming stuff at least. And non googled chromium probably does not have the commercial addons needed.

What would be the least bad chromium family browser then ?

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

firefox and a torrent client

[–] Colitas92@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

i can live with that 👍

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Pop os, but don't install brave, it's bullshit cryptocurrency spyware.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I second LinuxMint. When I first got in to linux I was (shamefully 😅) looking for something that was as close as possible to Windows and a turn key experience with both installation and app compatibility. Linux mint was what I settled on personally.

[–] Trent@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thirded. I send everyone that asks over to Mint until they want to try something different.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Doesn't the Mint software center prompt for an admin authentication if you install a .deb package?

If so, an immutable OS like Silverblue would be technically more simple, seeing as flatpak installation doesn't require sudo.

[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quick example: When I install a new OS, the first thing I want to do is install Brave. That should be as easy as “click on this thing, type in brave, select Brave, install.”

Why would you expect that from Linux, that's not even how it works on Windows lol. Basically every Linux distro comes with a software center these days, so that shouldn't be a concern.

Someone who wants to be able to get up and running without having to learn how to manage the OS using the cli.

Your usage of the CLI will be determined by how much stuff you want to do. If all you want to do is use a browser, than any distro will work. If you are a techie that uses a bunch of peripherals and like the latest greatest hardware, I would recommend Endeavor because your hardware will be better supported and installing drivers from the AUR is easy. If you are OK with a slight learning curve with the benefit of having a stable distro you don't have to mess with, I would recommend Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite.

Technically on windows you do just search for brave, click the download link and install it, and you're done.

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like I'm out of the loop. What does "opinionated" mean in this context?

It means it's made decisions for you instead of leaving it up to customization.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I think opinionated is different from being for a non-power-user.

Click 'brave' is not opinionated, because I could click chromium instead. "There is a web browser (and it is Firefox)" is more opinionated, and easier at first, then harder if you happen to need a chromium-based browser.

[–] Nomecks@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure you could always "curl | sudo bash" your way to a one click install of practically anything involving Linux.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, I customise my windows gui to look like kde, then post my vnc login on stack exchange to zero-click install everything.

[–] Starfish@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OpenSuse Leap. In YaST (its system settings tool) you can do everything from a GUI. No cli, no config files, no tinkering.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I tried openSUSE Tumbleweed, and neither Brave nor ThinLinc Server showed up in the YaST search.

[–] Starfish@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

go to Yast -> Software Repositories and add the Brave Repo. Now you can install it in Yast Package Manager.
https://brave.com/linux/

You can also install it with "opi" from terminal: "sudo opi brave"