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[–] bradbeattie@lemmy.ca 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have a Switch but have bought maybe 3 games for it tops. Where Steam has user reviews, a super simple refund policy, and frequent deep discounts, Nintendo's purchasing experience is clearly lacking in a customer-friendly approach.

Anyone asking for recommendations for their next gaming device, it's Steam Deck every time.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

Don't forget a more user friendly digital download SHARING system as well.. We tried "SHARING" a digital download switch game a few times.. Steam is far more forgiving. Switch wins on swapping carts however, if you stick to physical purchases for sharing.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah. Nintendo's lack of refund policies is why I made the switch to SteamDeck.

[–] jmankman@lemmy.myserv.one 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The SD had the Switch's entire library the day it came out, no fucking shit it has thousands more games from the day it came out even ignoring that

[–] nigh7y@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago

Including *cough* switch games *cough*

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

Any x86 handheld console always has more games than the Switch including the Switch games

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

And non of the games on Steam are Nintendo games. Sure you’d could use an emulator but the average mainstream casual gamer can’t be bothered to learn how to do that. And Nintendo is a much better known brand than Steam with the casual crowd. Nintendo is not really competing with Steam. Smart phones, which most people already have and the games are free, are a much bigger threat to Nintendo than the Steam Deck.

[–] noctisatrae 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It clearly underpins your opinion that Nintendo has been trying to enter the mobile market.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean 'enter'? Nintendo created one of the first handheld gaming devices that ever existed, and they've been known for handheld devices all the way through their history.

[–] linuxjj@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

I specifically said 'one of the first'.

But if you want to be nitpicky, the Lynx was released two months after the original Gameboy.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At this point, anyone with the tech knowledge to have purchased a steam deck can install and run emudeck in like 15 minutes. You just go over to desktop, download and install the single package, put roms in the correct folders, then run the program and everything is already sorted into collections with you can find in the game mode library.

[–] java 3 points 10 months ago

anyone with the tech knowledge

That rules out most of the people.

[–] belated_frog_pants 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I install it for my friends and no, "most people" cannot do this because booting into desktop mode and using dolphin sounds easy but its not for folks who just want it to work easy like a switch. Desktop mode is for power users and most console/pc owners are not power users.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Lol, wut? "Steamdeck desktop mode is for power users" starting 2024 with a strong dumbest tech take, I'm going to have to look hard for this to get beat.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

but which platform has more shovelware to sift through? Using the Nintendo store feels like swimming through a literal shit hole that someone dumped a tiny bag of gemstones into.

[–] Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've have a switch but steam deck is one of the best purchases I have ever made. It's such a beautiful device. Not to mention you can change the internal storage and add expandable storage. The biggest advantage steam deck has is its community.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Storage expansion is great. I got a 2tb SSD form AliExpress for ~160CAD and put in a 1tb SD card. I can just install whatever I want and never worry about shaders or games using to much space.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Apples and oranges comparison. The Steam Deck is PC-adjacent hardware that can access a back catalogue of thousands of games going back twenty years, well before the Steam Deck was even an idea.

The Switch is a game console with its own ecosystem, and it has existed for six years. Games have to be developed specifically for it. The only thing both have in common is that they're handhelds.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

I only have a Switch and want a Steam Deck, I'm not gonna lie, emulation is one of the biggest selling points to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Seeing as Deck games include Switch games it's always had more

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Steam Deck also costs significantly more

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

$300 vs $400 is a stretch for “significantly more” but even accepting that, the steamdeck outclasses the switch’s hardware specs.

Plus when you buy a switch, you have no games. Anybody buying a steamdeck presumably already has a library of games to play on it.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

it's more like $200 for the switch, since the deck without addons is more comparable to the switch lite

50% is already "significantly more"

100% definitely is

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The switch is $250, the OLED is $300. I should’ve said $250, fair enough.

However it is absolutely ridiculous to say it’s a switch lite. Pretty much everybody now has a USB-C dongle, which the steam deck can use in most cases. It’s not like Nintendo where you need their proprietary dock. The only thing I can’t do is pop the controls off of the actual system. A switch lite can’t even be docked.

Most people also have one wireless video game controller, definitely a mouse and keyboard.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it's really weird to me that you keep including "things people already have" as if they didn't have to already buy those things with money in order to have them

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ok so now we need to list TV's? Internet? Electricity? Jfc.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

no because those things are very obviously common to both

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Ok you need to pay $60/yr to play online with switch. Let's factor that in real quick lol

And yes it is reasonable to assume anyone buying a steamdeck has a M+K

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

nobody i know who has a switch wants to play online with it, but sure

i'm not sure why having a mouse and keyboard is relevant

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

M+K = control system when docked. It's very relevant.

nobody i know who has a switch wants to play online with it

Anecdotal and irrelevant because the service exists and is used by millions. Nobody debating between a steamdeck and a switch is planning for it to be offline play all the time.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

M+K = control system when docked. It's very relevant.

you want me to plug my keyboard and mouse into the deck so i can sit within arms reach of the TV to play?

defeats the purpose, I'd say

Nobody debating between a steamdeck and a switch is planning for it to be offline play all the time.

this is literally every bit as anecdotal

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have to believe you're just trolling at this point. I'm done man. Feel free to have the last word, I'm sure it's very important to you.

[–] interolivary 2 points 10 months ago

I congratulate you on your attempt, but I honestly don't know how you lasted this long because holy fuck did it look like you're trying to argue with a particularly dim houseplant

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 10 months ago

you want me to plug my keyboard and mouse into the deck so i can sit within arms reach of the TV to play?

You've never heard of or owned wireless peripherals? We're not in the 90's.

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[–] lukini 1 points 10 months ago

FYI there is a $20 plan. I'm on your side here, but gotta get facts right.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

No it isn't.

The switch lite is tiny with inputs that don't work.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

A used version of Doom for switch at gamestop is $33. Buying it new from nintendo is $40. Its on sale for playstation right now for $3. Three dollars. Regular price is $20 (also $20 on steam). Also the switch runs it at 720p at 30fps or less and literally any other system it was released on is capable of running it at 1080p at 60fps. Twice the performance, half the cost on other systems than switch. Thats Nintendo for you.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

plus way more nintendo, super nintendo, genesis, and n64 games then you can get on switch online

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

High quality thousand of games…

[–] baconicsynergy 1 points 10 months ago

I can play Spotify, Doom, and Runescape at the same time on my Steam Deck. I don't think any other console can do that

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 1 points 10 months ago

It always did. But maybe not verified.