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Since Bart is now available in Europe I have both options now and problem of choice :) People who have access to both for a while, what AI tool do you mostly use?

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago

ChatGPT. I avoid Google as much as possible.

[–] monerobull@monero.town 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Haven't tried bard but use ChatGPT to write/debug scripts and SAP stuff. Also asking it when I have simple but technical questions.

I am also downloading and running the latest models in the local LLM space every 2-3 weeks, just waiting for the point at which they finally take over gpt3.5 at which point I'll probably not touch ChatGPT again.

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Which ones are your downloading and running?

[–] monerobull@monero.town 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Today I tried TheBloke/WizardLM-13B-V1-1-SuperHOT-8K-GGML in koboldcpp for a short bit but didn't actually test the 8k context. I just love seeing them evolve and get a bit better every time I download a new one.

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[–] pbjamm 1 points 2 years ago

https://github.com/serge-chat/serge

The easiest to set up that I have found and it supports a large library of models. I can not say that I have had amazing results but it is a lot of fun to play with.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tried both but honestly haven't found much of a proper use for either.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still don't think it's much more of a novelty. From what I've used it really feels like you can see the training data in all of the answers, which obviously, but like if I ask it to write a cover letter it feels like it's some cover letter it trained on more than mine

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[–] Newtra@pawb.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still use Google for ~95% of my queries because I like real sources, comprehensive documentation, and not having to read a wall of text when a one-line answer would have sufficed.

ChatGPT is a good replacement for Quora/Stack Exchange for explaining general knowledge stuff like other languages' grammar and simple science, as well as finding authors/books/movies from descriptions when you've forgotten their names.

Bard is... kinda dumb. I gave it a few chances, but it was nothing compared to ChatGPT's free tier.

[–] iamhazel 2 points 2 years ago

Definitely agree that ChatGPT is often waaay too wordy.

[–] mustyOrange 11 points 2 years ago

ChatGPT is my programming rubber ducky for general stuff

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] madkarlsson 5 points 2 years ago

... Is a sentance I never thought I would read in a million years

[–] ollien 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ditto. I mostly use it when Google (search, not Bard) fails me. I find it's really good at answering questions of the ilk: "I swear there's a function for this in the library I'm using, what's it called again?", or telling me that it doesn't actually exist.

[–] eldrichhydralisk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. I find Bing chat is really good when I know almost nothing about what I'm searching, or when I know a whole lot about what I'm searching. Like in your example, if I know exactly what I need but can't remember its name Bing will read all the spammy beginners' guides for me and get the answer. And on the opposite end, if I'm looking to buy a gift in a hobby I don't remotely understand Bing does a pretty good job of holding my hand through the search process.

Weirdly, medium knowledge questions seem to still do better as a basic Google search. If I need to fix an appliance I've fixed before, but it's been a long time so I really need a full walkthrough, the first few results on Google are faster than waiting for Bing to talk through it.

[–] ollien 2 points 2 years ago

I don't have the time to find this right now but there was an example at launch where it very badly summarized pet vacuums or some such, giving blatantly incorrect information about them.

[–] suburBeebiTcH 2 points 2 years ago

bing chat is pretty great, not only do you get the benefits of search and gpt4 but also summarizing/answering questions on the webpage you have open or pdfs if you open them in edge. Only issue is that it is slower

Now are these companies stealing everything and possibly opening up a cesspit that their platforms will fall into? Absolutely. These tools are literally removing the ability for them to advertise because they are leading to less link traffic that would have google ads or otherwise and also the degradation of search tools... but by god its super useful for now

only real problem for me personally is that it gives low barrier to entry to ask about any question that pops in my ADHD brain, so I keep having more and more questions that never stop. Learning a lot tho

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Having it do a search then summarize the content from the search in one step is really handy. Basically skips the step of regular search oping a bunch of the links looking for relevant info.

AND it provides the source / references so you can easily click and read the actual page the info came from.

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[–] awdsns@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just tried out Bard with what I thought was a not to exotic question.

It made up a feature for a library, then lied about when it was added, and finally conocted some imaginary source code for it.

It's seriously a mystery for me how anyone gets a net benefit from using these LLMs when you have to second-guess literally everything they output.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I have found bard is pretty bad with code. I occasionally (for fun because I'm really pretty lame) pose the same coding-related questions I run into to both of them and at best they give comparable answers, but more often bard is either way less informative or just flat out wrong.

That's not to say that ChatGPT hasn't also been wrong, just that I've never seen Bard be correct when ChatGPT isn't.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

None, of course.

[–] Hexarei 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use chatgpt for generating ideas for my DND campaign, and for coming up with examples of an idea that I can use as a jumping off point for software development.

Other than that the only LLM I use is GitHub copilot.

[–] iamhazel 1 points 2 years ago

Same here, although since OpenAI disabled bing search I occasionally need Bing since it knows better about the new Godot 4.

[–] Qyriad@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago

Neither because AI is bullshit

[–] sandayle@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 2 years ago

I tried both with same question and found them both good. I'm not actively using them for now, but if they give the same results I'll prioritize Bard. I hate Microsoft more than Google.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m having a play with the newly launched Claude.ai v2 rafter liking it so far.

[–] V4uban 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Interesting, just trying this one out

Edit: Just noticed it's not available outside of US and UK unfortunately

[–] MrPozor@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find Phind.com quite useful as an IT person.

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago

I have never heard about it. What are the benefits over generic chatGPT?

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

I recently got access to CoPilot. Writing tests was never so much fun. It still feels (!) a bit like magic. And it helps with the boring repetitive parts.

[–] furrowsofar 2 points 2 years ago

Neither. I have played with huggingchat.

[–] LightningHaqeem@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago

Github copilot (chatgpt) is amazing for accelerated programming

[–] jmbmkn 2 points 2 years ago

I've been using FastGPT from Kagi search, impressed that it is starting to give sources for what it says.

[–] TheOtherJake 2 points 2 years ago

Neither, but I plan to try PrivateGPT soon. I'm curious about feeding it some CS books and testing the outputs to questions. I may also try feeding it transcriptions of CS lectures. I'm curious if it can be useful when I get stuck on stuff while learning on my own

[–] PostmodernPythia 2 points 2 years ago

ChatGPT writes my cover letter first drafts for me. It’s pretty good. I fix the draft, obviously, add things, restructure, but it’s way better at boilerplate corporate newspeak than me. Haven’t tried Bard yet, though.

[–] lemmyatom 2 points 2 years ago

I have not had a chance to try Bard. Since ChatGPT came first, I'm still experimenting with its capabilities to see how it can assist me in my workflows. Since we're on this topic of LLMs, I do suggest anyone using them to read up on "prompt engineering". One drawback of these models is the generation of 'hallucinations' or false information. They work by imitating the next 'token' (think autocomplete but with attention on context)--but there's no fact checking, no reflection, no internal monologue. Better prompting helps avoid these cognitive pitfalls of LLMs and will help produce better/more accurate answers. Prompting LLMs is currently an active area of AI research so a lot is still unknown. However, you can definitely find some pointers and best methods on prompting that help you become a more effective user of these tools.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use ChatGPT and Bing Chat.

I barely use Bard because it does not support Spanish yet (my main language).

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now (since yesterday) Bard supports Spanish as well. You can give it a try.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the good news! :)

[–] grandfunk@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Flan-t5 with RAG. Don't need a big model if the answers to your questions are in the context

[–] quasar@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I use both. Though it depends more on the type of query. I tend to use more bard or the bing version. I’m much less likely to login to the chatgpt site.

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