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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

edit: GUYS fuck stalin and fuck tankies, period. i understand that this community is more sensitive than most to pro-stalinist vibes, and i apologize for unintentionally twinging that nerve, but you need stop calling each other (and me) slurs

good heavens, happy new year, fuck incarceration and murder in all forms

(mods pls also do your job and help with the slurs thing)

edit2: big thank u 2 da mods for helping with the slurs thing u guys rock 😎 πŸ’•

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[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 68 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When your gulag population has 50% death rate within a year thats not hard...

We also aren't counting people in China's concentration camps because they aren't officially prisoners and there aren't any real numbers...

But the justice system in USA is shit yes.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This comment is excellent.

If your average prison sentence is 10 years, you will have 10x more prisoners than annual arrests/sentences.

It’s the same kind of misleading stat as life expectancy being 30 years in medieval time. If you survived childhood you could easily reach your 60s or later, just like how you can live that long without any serious health interventions today.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 20 points 10 months ago

it’s not a misleading stat it’s a stat with nuance. slavery in the U.S. is legal per the 13th amendment, as are for-profit prisons.

this fiscal motive leads to more sentences for smaller crimes (marijuana possession) for longer times, and it’s obscene.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 10 months ago

So a 10 year prison sentence isn't 10 times worse than a one-year sentence? You think 3 people in prison for a month each is worse than two people with a year each?

[–] toxicbubble420 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

why do people bring up other countries when USA is criticized, just admit you're in a shithole country

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Because tankies love tu-quoque-arguments. That way they don't have to put all states in question

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 10 months ago

i’m saYING lmao.

[–] ThereIsNoGod@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Because, you know, Soviet union (other country) in post himself

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lol hexbear is leaking again

[–] Nyoka@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I have a full instance block and it still isn't enough. Every day more braindead tankie takes make it through the filter.

"everything the USSR/CCP/DPRK did wrong is actually capitalist state intelligence propaganda" is so exhausting.

"Capitalism is bad" apparently no longer includes state capitalism or the political capital exploitation of the vanguard class that preceeds it.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

ive yet to see anything other than reactionary posting from hb

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The meme is pretty unclear tho. Ig you use the gulags and the ussr as a general point of evil and compare other evil(the us) to it?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago
[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

LOL. the myth. like gulag or uigur camps easily exceed those numbers.

[–] danikpapas@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Hmm, i wonder which race dominates the us prison population? Were they also in the Soviet union?