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I love the original Hotline Miami but I'm not a big fan of the boss fights like the ones in Neighbors (Biker) and Deadline (Van Driver). I find it kind of slows down the game and limits the strategies you can take.


Another example would be Fallout 3. I find the tutorial section in Vault 101 can feel a bit long after a fifth run but maybe that's because I was spoiled by Fallout New Vegas' ability to run off in your own direction immediately after leaving Doc Mitchell's house.

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[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Dark souls. Everything after Anor Londo is a bit of a slog. Once you've beat Snorlax and Pikachu the game gets a bit worse in terms of quality.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nonsense, bed of chaos was the highlight of the series!

/s

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Don't forget those chicken leg demons they were easily the best designed enemy in the game.

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[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 17 points 10 months ago

One of the most popular mods for Dragon Age: Origins is a mod that lets you skip the fade section of the game. So that's a pretty good indication of how people feel about it.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The unskippable toturial. Every game that has one.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 10 months ago

toturial

Love the typo. It seems a merge between "tutorial" and "torture", which in many cases is.

[–] SalsaGal@programming.dev 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Half-life’s Xen levels are particularly infamous for this sort of thing. There’s a reason the Black Mesa remake overhauled it.

[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

And they are still bad, IMO.

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[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The intro of fo3 - fo4 - tes5 - tes4. I have saves just after the intro because it's 30min - 1h just to start playing the damned game

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You ever try alternative start mods?

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[–] Crotaro 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The initial prologue cutscene in Okami. It's about fifteen minutes and unskippable. But, the lore being delivered by textbox, you can't just do something else because you have to press a button to advance the text.

I love that game dearly. If I had to pick one game as my most favourite of favourites, this would be it. But please, let me skip the first fifteen minutes once I, iunno, progressed beyond the tutorial.

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

Okami is a masterpiece, but that into is quite tedious!

[–] TonyHawksPoTater@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

GTA: San Andreas, OG Loc mission. I'm much better at it after all these years, but I still run into at least 5 walls and fall off my bike every time. It's way harder than the train mission.

[–] yazirian@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I call Nier:Automata "the best game I will never play again" and it's because of 9S' combat.

What were they thinking? No one cares about 9S anyway! But he's your playable for well more than what should only have been his one-third the game, and his combat is AWFUL! If I wanted to play Asteroids I'd play Asteroids. You have two other playable characters, both of which chop up robots with giant swords! THAT'S what people are here for, know your audience!

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

For me all of nier automata's gameplay was terrible, and the story too but that is something I know not many people will agree with me on

[–] averyminya 8 points 10 months ago

Pretty much anything with unskippable cutscenes, like Max Payne 3, or when you're locked into an area for an hour like FO3 or Borderlands 2

[–] init@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

KOTOR 1. Taris is cool but let's be honest. I play that game because I like playing a Jedi. I've also played it from start to finish at least 20 times.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't got to your numbers, but I've enjoyed playing it quite a few times.

I got a perverse pleasure in going Dark Side and perverting Bastila...

[–] init@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I'm such a carebear. I've never played a darkside character because I love the supporting characters too much πŸ˜…

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 7 points 10 months ago

Fighting street thugs in the Yakuza games. The man can't even walk peacefully for 2 mins.

The problem is even worse with Yakuza 7. The RPG fighting mechanic makes me feel like fighting is a chore. To add to that, you cant even run away from these fights.

[–] klisurovi4@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I love Cyberpunk 2077, probably one of my favourite games ever and I've beaten it something like a dozen times. I still hate talking with Evelyn and doing the heist. It's such a slog once you know what to expect. At least they made the BD tutorial skippable.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

A dozen times? Damn that's a lot lol. I'm about to play out my second since the expansion is out. My first playthrough was a Nomad sniper / Gorilla Arms / baseball at wielding punk. I think my second time I'll go with a Corpo stealth net runner.

[–] KaleDaddy 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doom (2016) might be my all time favorite game. But the end gets really repetitive. The game is kind of loke the original Portal where they had one really great gameplay concept (the combat) and made a tight game around it with no frills. But without any other gameplay loops the end just means tediously long waves of enemies which could become a slog

[–] TheDonkerZ@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm assuming you have played it, but Doom Eternal takes all of the good from 2016, improves all of it, and adds a whole slew of features that are virtually all positive. That, with a pretty impressive story to boot, DOOM Eternal might be my favorite sequel of all time.

[–] KaleDaddy 3 points 10 months ago

Doom Eternal probably has my favorite gameplay of any game. I did think it struggled with some sequel bloat. I didnt like the bright colors even if it was a harl back to the original games, or the extended cutscenes and story and lore. It seemed a bit unnecessary especially compared to the running gag in the first one about The Doom Slayer not giving a shit about the story

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[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Ooof, you just gave me flashbacks to the original Deadspace turret section. One of my favourite games but damn if that section wasn't an awful slog.

[–] janabuggs 6 points 10 months ago

Ravenholm in Half Life 2 cause I get scared. Why yes. You are correct, I am a wussy little piss baby.

Every mandatory stealth section in a non-stealth game. Spider-Man, several Zelda games, Metroid Dread, Jedi Knight II.

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Generally the escort missions or forced on rails/stealth sections in open world games where you have specific builds and play styles

[–] ZycroNeXuS@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

The main thing that keeps me from reinstalling and trying to play Skyrim again is the thought of having to do Bleak Falls Barrow for the billionth time. Yeah, I could mod around it, but I just don't care enough to figure out how for a game I pretty much always play through the first few hours of and then drop for another three years anyways.

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

I love watching Let's Plays of Telltale games and similar games like Life is Strange. But usually, the first episode is hardest to watch through, because in these types of games, the first episode also serves as a very drawn out tutorial and has the most of the lore dumps.

[–] Kiwi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

Terraria. I love Terraria but the start is a chore to get through with how slow everything is. It's still not enough to stop me of course, the game is just too much fun

[–] LongRedCoat@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ghost of Tsushima is one of my comfort games, but I hate replaying the end of act 2 because of the emotional toll.

In Devil May Cry 3, the Nevan boss fight and backtracking through the rearranged tower after it's activated are just tedious.

Another user said the Fade section of Dragon Age: Origins, but I'll go with the Deep Roads. Everything you learn in that section is fascinating, but man, I just want to see the sky again and you're down there for a while.

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[–] chahk 5 points 10 months ago

I enjoy city builders like Cities: Skylines 1 and 2, or Foundation. I hate the initial crawl when you start a new city and have to micromanage everything because budget. I almost always play with unlimited money cheat enabled. It's just more relaxing that way.

[–] CrazyEddie041@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Blighttown.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Half Life 1 - On a rail
Factorio - before you have automated construction bots

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Half Life: Xen. All of it. I hate it

Super Mario RPG: Having to jump up to nimbus land fucking sucks

Chrono Trigger: First time going to the Dark Ages before Kajar/Enhasa..just boring really

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Have you played Black Mesa? I felt it did a great job when it came to Xen. Probably one of my favorite parts of the game

I'll echo OP and say that if you haven't tried Black Mesa, I highly recommend it. The xen intro is breathtaking in my opinion.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The sewer section in Vampire Bloodlines. It's a long action/combat sequence that totally does not fit with the rest of the gameplay.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Sewer count

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

It's so long, especially if you get turned around. Which is easy to do, since it violates one of the core rules of combat level design: have a clear path forward. And it's interspersed with "puzzles" that are really just exercises in frustration.

There's a specific command to skip the ocean house, but I didn't mind that. I wish I could skip the damned sewers.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

cyberpunk2077. running through the fuzzy bd like space to find johnny and then playing as him.

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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Personal 5 Royal - Okumaru boss & End boss (vanilla).

I love this game, truly do but that particular boss is so bullshit (Okumaru)

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Unless we're talking non narrative PvP or something, I've yet to find a game that I enjoy replaying!

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Elden Ring. The experience as a whole has a significant drop once you take out Morgott. There's a handful of different reasons, and none of them are really significant, by themselves, but added all together...

[–] solitaire@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

KOTOR 2 - Has quite a few pain points for me, usually when they make you swap characters, but by far the longest stretch that makes me reconsider replaying is the surface of Telos. It's just a bore until you reach Atris and feels like it takes forever.

I actually like Pergaus outside of the T3 part though, which I guess makes me a KOTOR 2 heretic. The atmosphere and mystery is just fantastically done.

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago

Doom 1993 I do not like Episode 2 very much. Episode 1 has masterful level design, and Episode 3 has the abstract hell levels that are visually interesting, even if they aren't that great to play. Episode 2 is just kind of boring. It does have the Tower of Babel tho, that's a highlight.

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