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Just recently I was in a conversation with a number of UK mainlanders and we had a debate over what "tories" meant, apparently disproportionately ordinarily it refers to a political party and it's not usual to use it as short for "territories" as I've used it (according to how the debate ended, it was half and half between them). And once again I'm reminded of how people feel to look back at their usage of a word/phrase over the years and cringe.

More tragically, me and a friend were embarrassed once upon realizing everyone was confusing "encephalitis" with "hydrocephalus" when talking to someone about their kid with hydrocephalus. Awkward because encephalitis is caused by HIV.

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[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

every word i use is right, its the english language that is wrong

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

One could say language is what we make of it.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was homeschooled and was basically educated by books, so I have a massively large vocabulary and I mostly use it correctly.

But pronunciation? I'm fucked.

[–] Brad 6 points 10 months ago

My son is a voracious reader, and he has the same thing. He's 15 now but still, every so often, he'll say a word and it'll take me a minute to figure out what he means.

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[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Freedom.

Apparently where I live it means torture people till they off themselves.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Either you're being edgy or you live somewhere truly horrendous.

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[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh in English -- I used to say renumerate (numerate a second time) instead of remunerate (pay someone for a thing).

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Me too!! I'm Italian and I used to say "renumerare" instead of "remunerare".

If you're curious, the verb comes from Latin "munus" = service/duty/tax

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 4 points 10 months ago

Yup, that makes sense!

I've cornered the market on Latin-Vietnamese cross-language humor though. Stay off my turf :P

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

holy... well, blow me.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have never heard nor saw it spelled "remunerate".

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Yup, that was the case for me too. I think I only figured it out when I was like 30.

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[–] Linnce@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought phallic (fálico) meant flawed (falho) and used it so much. I cringe when I remember this 😭

[–] ConstableJelly 7 points 10 months ago

Hey go easy on yourself, we're all phallic.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How about " till " in English vs " 'til " ?

In English, a till is a cash drawer or a plough. The abbreviation for "until" is " 'til ".

I see it in subtitles. I worry for society.

[–] ConstableJelly 7 points 10 months ago

Haha, sorry to confuse things further but this is not true .

Tldr, "till" is its own word and is actually older than the word until, and they've been used synonymously for centuries. 'Til with an apostrophe is acceptable but has been less common, and til without an apostrophe is even less common.

[–] Bronco1676@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Even happened in the comments here

https://lemmy.ml/comment/6785769

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[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Awkward because encephalitis is caused by HIV.

From the NHS website:

Encephalitis is most often due to a virus, such as:

  • herpes simplex viruses, which cause cold sores (this is the most common cause of encephalitis)
  • the varicella zoster virus, which causes chickenpox and shingles
  • measles, mumps and rubella viruses
  • viruses spread by animals, such as tick-borne encephalitis, Japanese encephalitis, rabies (and possibly Zika virus)

Encephalitis caused by a virus is known as "viral encephalitis". In rare cases, encephalitis is caused by bacteria, fungi or parasites.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I happily described a nice coffee shop as "kitschy" to the guy behind the counter and quickly learned from his reaction that it isn't the synonym for "artsy" that I thought it was.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

It means "a naive imitation" for anyone who's ears are turning red now. Puts on a wool cap.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is encephalitis caused only by HIV, though?

I seem to think it was a thing before HIV.

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[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

For decades I pronounced albeit like "al-bayt", instead of "all-be-it". I only ever saw it in writing, and never hears anyone say it. Meaning made also so much more sense when I finally heard it being said out loud. Eye opener.

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

Well TIL, guess I'm one of today's lucky 10,000

[–] stirner@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Shit, I use it the same way.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Literal has been used as a non-literal exaggeration for centuries.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

If kids could learn a second adverb that'd be great.

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I lived for the better part of a decade in Vietnam thinking "đại lý" was a loan word from English meaning "daily".

It actually indicates an agent (like a reseller) -- e.g. a lottery ticket seller, news stand, and so on. "Daily" just worked in all those contexts by coincidence.

I also mix up "in stock" (in a warehouse) and "available". So an analogy is I often ask people if they have "a clock in their warehouse" instead of if they "have the time".

Also probably two dozen equally weird things I'm not even aware of. People are pretty chill about it, mostly because the number of people without Vietnamese heritage that speak the language in any capacity, rounds down to zero.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Germany, it's really popular to call each other "Digga" as a way of saying "Dude" or "Man". Its origins come from the word "Dicka" (read: hey fatty, hey thicko), but the Hamburg dialect changed the k to a g.

I, uh, thought it came from a different route via the US. I was wrong...

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[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

I have bad hearing so I mostly just mispronounce words...

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I used to say "worth nothing" while, obviously, the correct way is "worth noting".

However, given how many Google results are there about the wrong spelling, I'm clearly not the only one.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

"Congratulations, you won the lottery!"

"Worth nothing."

"Uhm... alright."

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

Not a word but I thought the idiom toe the line meant basically the same as push the envelope. As in you're testing the boundaries of something by walking right up to the line and nudging it with your toe to move it further.

Turns out it means pretty much the opposite, essentially the same as fall in line.

[–] IgnatiusJReilly@lemmy.wtf 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

It took me until graduate school to learn that "mortified" is not another word for "scared"/"fearful"

It still looks that way to me what with mort in there!

It also took me a long time to realize that the word "awry", which I read often in books and inferred its meaning, and "ah-rai" were the same thing. I thought awry was pronounced "aw-ree" and it was just a synonym for "ah-rai".

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

The word "nauseous" is parallel to "noxious" and means "causing nausea". If you're experiencing nausea, you're nauseated -- the thing that made you nauseated is nauseous.

[–] feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In German we use the English term 'understatement' in some occasions, e.g. 'his dressing style is a clear understatement...'. My brain somehow tied the meaning to something like 'understanding', maybe due to the similarities of both words. For decades it was clear to me that someone dressing like that were dressed to the point and 'making a clear statement'. Now that I've checked the real meaning, I'm completely puzzled when and how to use the term and what I've misinterpreted all the years...

[–] macgyver@federation.red 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Understatement would be like “it’s just sprinkling” when it’s actually raining really bad. Typically used sarcastically when someone tries to compare the situation to something that is normally comparable but to a lesser degree.

Unless I am unclear on what you’re misunderstanding :)

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, homonyms exist, confusing them/not knowing a word has one doesn't make it "wrong". Surely you (e: plural, not having a go at you op lol) could tell tories and Tories apart by context (if not capitalisation)?

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Redux. I've always just used it as a fancier 're-do'. Still going to keep using it as such. I like the word too much.

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[–] johnjamesautobahn 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Noisome means smelly, not noisy.

enormity means serious or grave, not very large.

terrific isn’t always great or amazing; it can be synonymous with terrifying.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Since OP is in the UK, I can pull out “nonplussed.” Current American usage of the word is a lack of surprise or general acceptance. I am nonplussed when news arrives that another politician was caught in a sex scandal. Non-American usage is complete surprise and an inability to act. The Scot was nonplussed when the drunk American vomited noisily on his shoes.

Edit: I am firmly in the “general acceptance” camp and usually have to process for a second or two when someone uses it in its traditional sense.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Alternately" when I meant "alternatively".

[–] clark@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Still don’t know the difference.

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