Proton Mail has been around for a long time and has a good reputation.
If you want to try self-hosting email (lol), mailcow is supposed to be very easy to set up.
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Another vote for Proton Mail! I’ve been using it for years with a custom domain. Keep in mind that your emails are secure and encrypted on PM’s servers, but not necessarily on the servers of your recipient.
Yep I started using Proton a few years ago with a paid account. Not too long ago they upgraded me for free(!) to the Proton unlimited plan. It has like 500 GB of storage. They also have calendar, drive, VPN and have recently come out with a password manager. Couldn't recommend them enough.
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Proton Mail sounds quite promising to me
Hostinger isn't bad either. That said I would really like to self-host but everyone rightly tells me not to deal with it.
I know someone who self hosts email and they are constantly bitching that people don't get their emails
Unknown domains often get refused connections from mail servers. Also, it can be easy to get blacklisted.
Yes, because an unknown domain is practically guaranteed to be spammy garbage. Probably malware too.
Don't self host mail. Just use a privacy respecting and encrypted mail provider.
Big mail does act like a cartel sometimes. It should be easier to self host. It's a freedom worth encouraging.
Big mail does act like a cartel sometimes. It should be easier to self host. It's a freedom worth encouraging.
I've been using Proton since it first came out and have had no problems with it. I have a paid account because it's worth it to me to not be the product. And for about $5/mo I get encrypted email, calendar, vpn, drive, and password manager (though I primarily only use the first three).
They have a free version that lets you try it out, though with limited features.
The Mail Plus version of the Password Manager doesn't have any option for 2FA unfortunately, only if you pay for unlimited (US$12/mo).
Tutanota is also good.
I've used Tutanota as email + calendar for years. Also way cheaper then protonmail
Indeed. I switched fully to pm recently mostly because it's one subscription for a bunch of services I was paying separately for.
So far so good.
Yeah the $10/mo plan for Pritin is actually super good, and they have a whole suite of tools that covers basically all you could need. Though I've been liking Tutanota, and they just announced an e2e cloud drive so I'm patiently waiting for that. I feel like if I wanted to get proton drive, I'd have to go into their whole ecosystem and don't really want to migrate my setup and like the Tutanota company.
I use Tutanota, which is based in Germany. It's FOSS and it's apparently resistant to decryption by quantum computers, which is impressive. They are also currently working on TutaDrive, which is a quantum-resistant cloud storage provider.
I'll just point out since you highlighted encryption as a selling point for those unaware: Tutanota was court order to build a backdoor against one of their users. Not trying to blame Tutanota specifically, just saying relying on a third part to do the encryption for you is not bulletproof no matter how impressive the encryption sounds.
But you must use their feature -lite apps or webmail and export / backup is clunky. Not all good
To be fair: this is a problem with Proton too.
https://mailbox.org/en/ is very privacy aware and transparent. You can even have an anonymous account by sending cash via snail mail :)
I've used them for a couple years now and love it. They have the full suite, calendar, storage, tasks, document editing the works.
I personaly use mailbox.org and I like it very much, it is paid tho
I've been with fastmail.com for more than 10 years. They have always done a good job.
I used to self host, but many emails didn't get through because anyone not big in the email game is automaticly backlisted often.
Another vote for fastmail. Very nice interface, full-featured, etc.
I use Mailbox.org. Only thing I can complain about is the web interface feels slow and the 2FA doesn't give any backup codes.
migadu.com. Have been using them for quite a while and it works really well if your main goal is to have a few inboxes to receive email and do not want to mass-email anyone.
migadu has been pretty solid the last few years and they've got some great pricing on plans that'll be sufficient to host an entire family.
I've been using disroot.org for a few years and it does what I expect. Recently I started a maddy.email server on a VPS and it's easier than I thought.
doesn’t collect my data and its [sic] secure as well
To quote cock.li,
How can I trust you?
You can't. Cock.li doesn't parse your E-mail to provide you with targeted ads, nor does cock.li read E-mail contents unless it's for a legal court order. However, it is 100% possible for me to read E-mail, and IMAP/SMTP doesn't provide user-side/client-side encryption, so you're just going to have to take my word for it. Any encryption implementation would still technically allow me to read E-mail, too. This was true for Lavabit as well -- while your E-mail was stored encrypted (only if you were a paid member, which most people forget), E-mail could still technically be intercepted while being received / sent (SMTP), or while being read by your mail client (IMAP). For privacy, we recommend encrypting your E-mails using PGP using a mail client add-on like Enigmail, or downloading your mail locally with POP and regularly deleting your mail from our server.
I'm surprised there's not a lot of votes for Fastmail. I was considering moving my low-volume domains to them.
Proton Mail is a good provider. I also like Thunderbird as an email client
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