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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 66 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Our track record dealing with covid shows us that our approach was largely unsuccessful. Masking must be enforced, not suggested. This is the only effective solution.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People were such dimwits about it though. Even if you had a security guard at the entrance to every shop challenging people to wear properly fitted n95s, I'm certain heaps of people would remove it after they walked past just on principle.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it was a shitshow, all because of how politicized it became. No one in 2018 would have thought that asking people to wear a face mask would become such an embarrassing ordeal.

But trust me, it's easy to catch a mask less person in a store. It shouldn't take more than a couple incidents before they learn their lesson and make an example for others.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Police are bad unless it is to arrest people over a mask"

Thanks for coming over from reddit

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Police are bad because they don't serve the interests of the community

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I tend to agree, but realistically who is going to enforce it? You've got to take into consideration the impact the constant stream of conflict has on low level employees who end up responsible for this enforcement. For those who want to protect themselves, N95 masks are highly effective when used properly.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

You also need to wear eye protection. Even just regular, prescription glasses showed a 30% reduction in infection rates. Masks don't protect if other people wont also wear them.

[–] AnarchoYeasty 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Make good paying security jobs whose sole purpose is covid enforcement (joking) (maybe) (people who refuse to mask make me angry as fuck. It's such a low effort way to save lives)

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

You mean like in China?

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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

who is going to enforce it?

In an ideal world, the community. In our current world, the government must require businesses to require customers to wear masks and social distance, and threaten them with suspending their business if they do not comply.

the impact the constant stream of conflict has on low level employees who end up responsible for this enforcement

It will not be constant. Places where this was enforced strictly did not have that trouble. It is the wishy-washy enforcement that empowered people to do this. It will be a short lived protest that dies out quickly, and the suffering will be far easier than that of covid deaths.

For those who want to protect themselves, N95 masks are highly effective when used properly

From my understanding, it is not enough. A person sharing a public space with you and not wearing a mask poses a threat, and this threat is massive if they are carrying the virus (even if non-symptomatic).

People must not have the freedom to cause the death or others by spreading respiratory viruses due to childish irresponsibility because their favorite youtuber said so.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You people need to be stopped, you are insane autoritarians. The crisis is over, we are but fin to wear mask forever. You had your time in the lime light, now it's back to normal. Continue to abuse this position and you will not get the population to mobilise again to alleviate the situation.

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Once again we see the abled throwing tantrums over the idea of having to suffer a mild discomfort so as to protect the lives of the disabled, especially the immunocompromised.

I have an aunt whose immune system has to be medicated into nonexistence at all times so it doesn't wreck her body, and she is still fucked up from covid, months after "getting over" it and with multiple vaccine shots beforehand. How many people have you killed or left permanently ill, and never realised, in your selfish ignorance?

If there were any divine justice in this world, idiots like you would be smote with horrible autoimmune diseases or total organ failure, forced to go on anti-rejection drugs for the rest of your lives, and live with the same fear you force on others, the fear that any "harmless" disease could be the death of you.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Stop bringing up imaginary malingerers to make your point, it's as ridiculous as your magical man in the sky delivering justice

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Your aunt would have to protect herself covid or no covid. Do you think microorganisms only appeared in the last 5 years?

Your last paragraph shows your true self and how "caring" you truly are.

[–] Chipthemonk@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You are very, very wrong.

Read this review. https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/ARI_do-physical-measures-such-hand-washing-or-wearing-masks-stop-or-slow-down-spread-respiratory-viruses

People like you shouldn’t live in the west. Fuck forcing people to wear a face rag when the science is far from clear on its effectiveness.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] Piers 3 points 2 years ago

Cochrane is a real source.

The report is being entirely misinterpreted. It does not make the claims regarding masks being ineffective that people think it does.

Here's a statement from them to that effect: https://www.cochrane.org/news/statement-physical-interventions-interrupt-or-reduce-spread-respiratory-viruses-review

[–] Chipthemonk@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look at the date you dumb fuck. Then recognize that the Cochrane review is highly respected when it comes to public health science.

You people are ridiculous.

[–] lukini 5 points 2 years ago

You ever gonna respond to people telling you your posts are a misrepresentation or are you just gonna call people dumb fucks? Kinda hard to trust someone posting like this.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And we can concentrate those who refuse in special camps!

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

We can tell them to make a real argument or expect no acknowledgement