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to preface: as much as the title sounds like a critique, it's not. it's just a realization i had while thinking about baldur's gate 3, and it's good they provided the options they did, for me to have this realization in the first place

i'm a transgender man, and i've been on hrt for several years, i haven't had bottom surgery, and i'm intimately familiar with the effects testosterone has on a vulva. i've also been in trans femme circles long enough to know how estrogen affects a penis (if you are unfamiliar, you can read about each at https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/second-puberty-masc#genital-changes and https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/second-puberty-fem#genital-changes)

and it's really weird to realize that most people cannot visualize what i have going on in my pants. a cis woman's vulva is fundamentally not accurate (which is basically what's presented as your option). for me, obviously; for some trans masc people, it is accurate

i don't know how trans femme people feel, but i could see the argument for them going either way. i'd like to hear what you think, if you feel represented by feminine body shapes with a penis selected as your genitals

and also, it would be interesting to see bottom surgery options represented. even if that's just the same models but with the "is this from surgery" option ticked or something

finally. my concluding thoughts are that i'd really like to see how big a half-orc's tdick gets (presuming that half-orcs are subject to the same sex hormones humans are and/or that they can substitute their hormones similarly. i mean that's it's own can of worms there)

i know i'm not ending off on any kind of a question but i wanted to share my feelings about this with people and hear how this made others feel, as well

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[–] AlexisLuna 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If I understand you correctly, what you're suggesting would require programming in an entire system for trans bodies, a bunch more 3d models to make and to integrate into that system, as well as many small changes all over the rest of the game to make it all work.

Don't get me wrong, I think that would be amazing and I too would like to see it, I don't think it's gonna be worth the investment for AAA games made for profit. Hell, I haven't seen a system like that in explicitly adult games, and games like that would actually use that system.

[–] Butterbee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They provided multiple vulvas and multiple penises to choose from already. Would it cost more to model an additional few? Yes. But it wouldn't require an entirely new system or significant programming. You could add them to the list of selectable options.

[–] AlexisLuna 10 points 1 year ago

I originally thought it was about deeper levels of customization that more realistiaclly portrayed trans bodies, which would be imo complicated. But you are absolutely right that just another variant of already existing selection would be reletively trivial.

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