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Trump Announces Press Conference to Prove Election Was Stolen – Rolling Stone
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Isn’t doubling down on this with the indictment in hand especially stupid? Surely opening him to further charges?
And what, exactly, has he faced in terms of consequences for anything during his 77 years on this rock? There is pretty much zero chance he sees any jail time and he's well aware of this. So what has he got to loose? Might as well stir up shit in prep for a Jan 6 v2 in 2025.
I don't see how this isn't a brazen attempt to taint the jury pool. If he has evidence exonerating him he just needs to present it in court.
It's like every time Trump opens his mouth, he shows us his taint....
He's already set up his base to think the charges are fraudulent. Any additional charges will just compound their irrational beliefs.
Absolutely. Stupid is as stupid does. The narcissist can't help himself, especially after drowning in his own Kool-aid. Hopefully the judge will revoke his bail and incarcerate him until trial, you know, like how any other defendant would be. Please! Prove to us that there's no separate treatment for the rich, even an ex-president! This is what we need!
Yep. It’s stupid shit like this that got him indicted in the first place.
"I'd love to show you the report, it's beautiful, and perfect, and it shows in so many ways how I'm innocent of all charges. My lawyers wept when they, true story! My lawyers were VISIBLY WEEPING as they read it. VISIBLY! But now, on the advice of those lawyers, I can't release it to you. I CAN'T! I want to, but I can't. They tell me it would tell these evil, nasty, prosecutors too much about our defense, so, you know, we can't have that."
Not further charges but it can be referenced to furthering the conspiracy for the RICO charges. Overall that is a hard case to figure out though.
RICO charges in Georgia are far easier to prove than federal RICO charges.
Sure, but first amendment issues and generally proving something is not sincerely held seems difficult to me. The former is something appeals courts will decide while the latter is something a jury will decide.
"First Amendment issues" is a non starter and a Trump lawyer talking point. As Judge Chutkan so aptly said, "Mr. Trump, like every American, has a First Amendment right to free speech, but that right is not absolute." There are lots of kinds of speech which are illegal all by themselves. With respect to a RICO case, when acts of speech are "overt actions in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy," even otherwise benign speech can be illegal. Conspiring to commit a crime, and taking overt action to further that conspiracy, is a crime all by itself, even if the crime being conspired does not come to fruition.
Whether or not the conspirators' "sincerely held belief" was that "the election was stolen" is irrelevant. If that is what you sincerely believe, there are already legal procedures to deal with that; take your case(s) to court. Which the Trump team did, with zero success. Just because you don't like the outcome does not make doing an end run around the law and conspiring to change election outcomes in illegal ways "suddenly legal."
Someone bet him he couldn’t get to 100 indictments by Wednesday, and he said, “hold my diet Coke!”
I don't think he knows what next week means.