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Most of the time when people say they have an unpopular opinion, it turns out it's actually pretty popular.

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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel the same but with genders. To be clear if anyone identifies to a specific gender, I'll respect that. However I don't see why genders are necessary. We are all unique human beings and there's no need to label everyone to a specific gender.

[–] diannetea 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think a little bit it's just that people typically like labels. They want to fit neatly into their little labeled box and the more labels they have, the more unique and/or complete they feel.

I really rejected labels as a teen, I hated the idea of it. Now I realize they can be useful for some things, and you know, if my trans brother feels better because his label is now male, that's fine it doesn't hurt me any to call him what makes him feel good.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the more labels they have, the more unique and/or complete they feel.

That sounds completely bonkers to me but you might be right.

if my trans brother feels better because his label is now male, that's fine

No, of course if you don't like the body you have and you want to change your "gender-defining" features, you should. It's a bit like changing your haircut - although more impactful. You didn't like your looks/body before, so you changed it and now you feel better so that's perfect!

Before I learned about the LGBTQ community, I thought of gender as something you were born with and that described your body type: masculine or feminine. Aside from that, I don't and never believed that it defines what kind of person you are, it only defines a part of your looks.

Now with the community there are people who describe themselves as non-binary or agender and again, I'll totally respect that. However when I tried to think about what my gender really was, I started to realize that the whole concept of gender didn't really make sense to me. What does it really mean to be non-binary? Heck, what does it even mean to be male or female? If it's not just your body-type then what is it? Why do we need it? Isn't it easier to not assign any genders at all? Just be who you want to be and love who you want to love!

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago

If it’s not just your body-type then what is it? Why do we need it? Isn’t it easier to not assign any genders at all? Just be who you want to be and love who you want to love!

That would be lovely if they weren't a lot of heavily armed persons willing to kill you or make you suffer if you act that way.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago

I think a little bit it’s just that people typically like labels

It's not just a question of liking. Human minds work setting categories.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However I don’t see why genders are necessary. We are all unique human beings and there’s no need to label everyone to a specific gender.

And if many people (specially, even if not exclusively, in a certain country whose name I'll avoid mentioning) didn't have as their favorite passtime "kill the freak", where "freak" is anyone not belonging to their narrow definition of acceptability, difference would truly be unremarkable. However, reality doesn't seem to be working well for those folks, and they need a way to identify each other to provide community and to feel less alone and, maybe, to defend each other.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago