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I really don't see the difference. Instant access versus delayed access.. sounds like a Freud book I read about once about the pleasure principle. It's all silly. The timing has nothing to do with anything. As a matter of fact, you've just argued yourself out of your own argument and made my point all over again. You can see it tomorrow, you can have it today. You can delay your pleasure. You can choose not to delay your pleasure. You can delay your pleasure because that's what pleasures you.
According to the cookies experiment, learning to delay instant rewards in exchange for higher future rewards, is a skill usually acquired at a young age that leads to higher success rates later in life.
Applied to sexual pleasure, the choice might be less relevant in adults, but growing up and getting used to instant unlimited gratification, sounds like a way to end up with an incel/rape culture mindset.
I think it's dangerous and disingenuous to substitute your imagination for evidence when describing a trend that doesn't appear to exist.
Reported rates of rape are the same in 2020 as in 1990
Let's substitute your comment with the actual data, in case someone can spot a trend:
That downward slope there? That's the prime years of the first generation coming into their own with internet porn; pornhub launched in 2007. 2014 is clearly subject to some effect -- there's reason to think it's increased rates of reporting -- but we're literally back at 1990 levels in terms of reporting. If you're going to blame 2014 on porn that had been around 15 years, then how do you explain the early 90s?
I'm not going to claim having an explanation for all what's going on there, but coupled with reports from people who are supposed to know more than me (watched one on the other day on addiction, Internet, and sex... as applied to Spain, but still), there are some worrying observations:
I would really wish it was just increased reporting, but it definitely looks like something more serious is going on.
You mentioned the 1990s, that's where I can speak from first hand experience:
Anyway, we could speculate a lot about what were the key changes, but since this is not supposed to be the place for such speculations, I think we can at least agree that something has changed quite dramatically.
"me too" happened and women started reporting it more often.
#MeToo started in 2017, the large jump in the graph happened in 2012-2013.
Yeah, that makes sense.