Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
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!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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Reinstate shop classes. Stop vilifying manual labor. Even as past time hobbies. The millennial generation in Ontario was the cohort that saw these things cut during the Mike Harris era. Coincidentally it was also the height of the university mindset. Guys grew up just sitting at home all day. Nothing else to do when not trying to grind through university. Sitting there stewing in their own mind. Doom scrolling scary things online. Not good.
Make sportsball a thing again. These generations are of the nerd era where it's cool to hate jocks and sportsball related things. Sports leagues have their own issues with masculinity but it does get guys out there touching grass.
Nerds turned to wrestling / fight sports for their version recreation league entertainment. Except it made them want to fight in real life. You can't just go around fighting people in real life so they got all this pent up aggression inside. Recipe for disaster. That's what I noticed in particular among my own peers in real life.
I may be wrong but I believe these are timeless remedies for at risk youth. Keep them busy doing things out there in the world. They won't have time for radicalization.
I worry this is a fairly backwards looking perspective on masculinity. Is an association with manual labor and sports really something we should perpetuate? This is a fairly shallow example but what about things like crafts (still constructive and not exclusionary of things like woodworking) and hiking/camping as a grass touching alternative.
Could you elaborate on that association? I don't think I get it, especially when it comes to the shop classes (which seems to be the US equivalent of the Tech and Design classes we had where I grew up).
Woodshop is a shop class I took in junior high, and the high schools near me all have strong woodshop programs. Of course, I’m in southern Oregon, a very wood-oriented region, so there’s that. I agree more attention should be paid towards full inclusion in this and other trade-type activities and job tracks. Additionally, manual labor isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
Upon a cursory Googling, it looks like sports participation is growing, not shrinking. As a long time teacher, I haven’t noticed any significant change in sports participation in my schools.
My two cents. YMMV