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[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 131 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shout-out to Librewolf as well (basically Firefox with better privacy focused configs).

People don't care enough about using browsers that reduce Google's influence on web standards (i.e. non chrome-based browsers)

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

IME, big momentous events are actually continuous transitions that we only notice in a drastic moment.

This whole chrome thing has been building to this for ages. So beyond using Firefox, there’s also some basic principles that need to be formulated and distributed as “it’s free because you’re the product” is now … not to mention breaking up monopolies.

[–] jackfrost@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

And an alternate email service like ProtonMail.

They also have ProtonDrive as an alternative to Google Drive. Apple's iCloud is also end-to-end encrypted now. pCloud is another popular option. There are a number of choices for secure cloud storage these days.

Web search is a bit more difficult. DuckDuckGo is heavily integrated with Bing. Brave Search is hit-or-miss. Yahoo is just a front-end for Bing.

If you need live document collaboration, you're probably already in a setting where either Sharepoint or GSuite are mandated. If you're not, BitAI may be worth looking into.

[–] claycle@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All great advice, but I personally cannot urge people towards pCloud. I have one of the permanent tiers, but I found the service frustratingly buggy and, when contacted, support was rude and unhelpful. There are so many little odd limitations on the pCloud file system it was frustrating. I also worry that their buy-once business model is not sustainable.

Sync.com provides an even more secure service (zero-knowledge across the board) with similar (better than US anyway) privacy protections in the host country (Canada) that has been, so far for 2 years of use, rock solid (I couldn't go a week without pCloud farting out some error). The subscription model is affordable and generous and the customer-facing pages for sharing files are very professional looking (important to me, because I professionally share files and pCloud looked like a hobbyist page in this regard AND leaked private information).

EDIT: Regarding iCloud. Not only is iCloud end-to-end, but you may turn on zero-knowledge encryption now, as well (Advanced Data Protection I think is what they call it) so that Apple doesn't even have the keys to decrypt your data, making it quite similar to sync.com now.

[–] protogen32@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For web search, I always first try SearXNG, but if I dont find what I need, I use startpage.com (private frontend for google.com)

[–] utopia_dig@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Kagi is also really nice. But it's not free..

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[–] persolb@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am confused by why everyone thinks this is a big threat?

What stops the FOSS community from just continuing to allow ad blockers and other webpage editing features?

[–] fluffman86@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the web is DRM'd in a way that requires chrome or windows then it could be difficult to bypass.

I remember the days of, "sorry, you must use Internet Explorer to use this website" when visiting my bank.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I remember that government sites were the same way it was frustrating.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 year ago (14 children)

DRM is already applied for certain content in websites such as Netflix, etc, and it makes it waaaay harder to bypass.

For example, Netflix (and the others) use DRM to block Linux computers from higher quality content. Why? I guess "hackers" and "think of the children". Truth is... content is already pirated from the second it gets released on any of these platforms... so they are not really fixing anything... I guess they really want you to use a tracking OS.

Imagine this kind of system but for an entire website. Big companies imposing their devices and software as the only way to access a website... which is really just HTML and Javascript files, entirely platform agnostic... but who cares? They are struggling for money so they are squeezing every little possibility.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Amazon too, Went freaking nuts trying to figure out why I couldnt watch any of my shit above like 180p quality on amazon. until I found out they intentionally and maliciously degrade the quality on non-windows machines.

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