Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
Rules
Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
!feminism@beehaw.org
!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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Yeah I don't think this is super surprising unfortunately.
Being a man and dating men undermines patriarchial conceptions of masculinity. A lot of these conceptions are very deeply-held; I think it's easy to consider acceptance easy when it's academic or theoretical, but when it becomes personal all bets are off. Think of all the pro-gay parents, who, when their children come out, completely flip out.
I think there's also, tragically, a large element of HIV stigma in here.
HIV stigma has a huge role to play in the history of the phenomena. See AIDS SPECTER FOR WOMEN: THE BISEXUAL MAN
Here's a relevant video on the topic. I tried to post it but folks don't seem to like the title. It's primarily about the history there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbHhIeYL9no
Patriarchal conceptions of masculinity is aka the instincts of straight female humans.
Everyone wants to blame culture, and via the word “patriarchy” they want to blame men, for this kind of thing but it’s way deeper than that.
No, this isn't just women; it is patriarchy, the entire set of power and systems that everyone participates in. Men blame men for being bisexual at least as much as women do.
please, don't waste words, look of his others comments, just report if you want, but i don't they can be convised to let go the hate
To be fair, in this case I doubt they broke any rules. Speaking up always does more than downvotes. Particularly true for those of us on instances without downvotes.
Why do you say “female” but follow it with “men” instead of “male”? Makes you seem like an incel or some men’s rights nut job.
what thw fuckn i recomend you to go outside, what a bullshit, and this isn't a pro-gender war community, stop spreading that, no, actually, go to your red pill/incel instances, just from you using "female" i can feel the misoginy, pleaae, let us alone