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Wikipedia is not volunteer run... They're using language to make it seem like it's a little website with a dream being bullied by the mean Russians. Wikipedia is run by its administrators, who do not let anyone else encroach on their power. 3 editors are responsible for most edits (I want to say 90%). Famously there is one editor that edits from 6 am to 10pm every day without fail (mostly pro war edits) , and the most prolific editor worked as a TSA and ICE agent terrorizing migrants.
There are thousands of Wikipedia administrators, and they're voted in by the community. The people who actually run Wikipedia are Bureaucrats.
The 3 editors your referring to are bot accounts that do things like archive pages and format things consistently.
Please learn more before spouting blatant lies, thanks :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators
lmao okay defend the Ayn Rand libertarian website if you want, what do you want me to tell you?
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia
Are you white and male by chance?
You can't just drop links and racism and pretend that's an argument. Your post talked about administrators, I explained why that's wrong. That goal post stays where it is.
Errr parent comment was troubling, but your claiming that calling out whiteness is "racism" is even more troubling. I don't know a single place on earth where anti-white racism is a thing, despite fascists claiming that. To be clear, some anti-white resentment does exist in white-supremacist regions, but resentment is not racism or rather is a small subset of racism and not the actual problem that we more precisely call "structural racism". (see also the wikipedia pages on those topics :))
I left Ruqqus for the stupid racism there, didn't expect to find it on Lemmy
That aside, I agree with most of what you said. My post was just to call out CriticalResist for running behind text walls after posting patently false info
Yea i agree the original comment was inappropriate, but please be careful when using such a loaded word as "racism" just because someone spelled "white" or "black" :P
I also strongly recommend you read the wikipedia page on reverse racism, aka anti-white racism. Have a good day!
That linked page is so full of bullshit it's hard to skim through. There are some good points: various interest groups using Wikipedia as a platform to promote their worldview, sexist bias leading to important women being denied their page... but there's also a lot of unsourced or shaky assertions.
Source? The specific governance varies with every language community, but at least in the French-speaking Wikipedia is administered by a registered non-profit. I can't say i agree all the time with their positions, but their power is transparent and no power is given to random people.
Source? I've never heard of either though i don't consider it impossible, but you have to remember that all admins are all-powerful: a single admin can not control the site, so such allegations imply that the whole staff is on it?
Source? Wikipedia has been constantly "improving" the participation UX. I personally prefered their old interface but i appreciate the new one is easier to use.
So the source for this is down now, but we can read it on the wayback machine. So it's an interview from this guy Kohs who denounces that some people writing on wikipedia have an agenda and we should be aware of that and check sources/history. Good advice so far. Oh wait this guy is behind that scandal and was actually paid to do commercial PR on Wikipedia and was banned for that... funny ;)
This makes no sense. First, i'd be interested in ethnic/religious/cultural stats on Wikipedia. Second, these stats should be made by language community because every language has its own policies on Wikipedia. Third, in the history and geography of humanity, whiteness is not necessarily linked to white supremacy. White supremacy itself is a rather "recent" phenomenon that started with european colonization and the rise of capitalism. It's also not present in the entire "white" world: for example racial oppression in France is mostly a form of cultural supremacy, not white supremacy. Or as a french rapper put it, "here they love you when you're rich and eat pork".
True. Wikipedia even has a dedicated page on that topic. Why not link to it?
Source? I certainly see bias on certain language communities, but arguing that Wikipedia as a whole promotes "white supremacist, anti-Semitic, fascist and sexist viewpoints" is a very far stretch. If anything, the french-speaking wikipedia does exactly the opposite although i disagree with the liberal "rough consensus" that most pages reach.
The article doesn't appear to contradict itself. It points out that deaths can be mostly attributed to disease, while still pointing out countless colonial atrocities. It does not appear particularly bad or biased to me.
All in all, that article is full of FUD. Wikipedia has bias and strong debates, but this "prolewiki" article lacks both. In that sense, it's a lot worse than most wikipedia article that i come across. Too bad for something that's supposed to show how unreliable wikipedia is...
EDIT: Their page on Anarchism is also hilariously bad, as if it was written by interns working for The Party™.
Wow. So much wrong in that sentence. Yes anarchism has some economic analysis: the entire cooperative movement was born from Proudhon's theories (he can be criticized on many other topics but that's not exactly the point). There are anarchist unions such as the CNT in Spain and the IWW in USA, both of which have been very involved in revolutionary activity and were the biggest unions of their time. The quoted sentence is an easy dismissal that's completely disconnected from reality of anarchism as a political struggle.
LOL. More like Bolshevism in Russia became a counter-revolutionary tendency and slaughtered dozens of thousands of workers who were real revolutionaries.
It's insulting to reduce decades of popular struggles to a dismissive sentence grouping together very different histories under a single umbrella. If anything, anarchism in Catalonia was the driving force of the socialist movement for a long time... many peasants learnt to read in anarchist circles, and the CNT was the biggest union with over 1 million members in Barcelona alone. Wikipedia also has short but good articles on the Ukraine Commune and the Korean Commune.
Fun fun fun. If you'd like to name TAZ/ZADs, then let's name a few more: Standing Rock, Notre Dame des Landes, Hambach... We could also mention anarchist communes, or libertarian communist (anarchist, in my view) territories like the zapatistas caracoles in Chiapas, or the free communes from Catalonia/Korea/Ukraine we mentioned earlier.
SOOOOOOOO after examining two articles on your "source" i'm glad to say it's entirely bullshit and if you want practical/useful information you should stay away from that "prolewiki".