I feel like the lack of care when it comes to updates and compatibility is a pretty big red flag for the fediverse, that should be the most important thing to worry about, above any features or tools they might want to add otherwise. Having scaling up issues and posts getting delayed is understandable - losing data constantly with no way of knowing it's actually lost is not, especially if there's no way to get it later, and it's been happening all over the place recently.

[–] Hotchpotch 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You might want to chill down a bit. It's not like people run a nuclear plant with Lemmy. I mean what's the worst thing possibly happening if you miss a handful of posts? Exactly, pretty much nothing.

Development wise i think mod tools are far more important. Keep in mind that Lemmy is still beta and only one part of the fediverse.

[–] abhibeckert 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Development wise i think mod tools are far more important

As a user who has literally never seen a post that needed any moderation... I'm struggling to see how that's more important. Clearly the moderation tools are good enough right now, because the moderators are able to do their job very well with whatever tools they have.

Basic stuff, like reading content, is totally broken right now. Large numbers of comments (millions maybe?) which should be visible, are not visible. That's clearly more important. I hope Beehaw waits a week or three before deploying the next version incase it's even worse.

[–] Hotchpotch 2 points 1 year ago

Two big instances were defederated by Beehaw recently because there were no sufficient tools to deal with problematic users. For detailed information have a look at the announcement.

Quote:

... [the] unfortunate reality we’ve also found is we just don’t have the tools or the time here to parse out all the good from all the bad. all we have is a nuke and some pretty rudimentary mod powers that don’t scale well. ...

In case you want to see pre-moderated contet you can look at the mod log. I read a couple of pages some weeks ago. Besides a good amount of technical stuff like double posts, there was a lot of racist, trans-/homophobe content and general insults. What we see is the result of plenty of work done with insuffient tools. Keep in mind Lemmy is still 0.xx.

[–] Kaldo 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really care for your patronizing tone, if even a bit of criticism like this upsets you so much then maybe you're the one who needs to "chill down a bit". I do care about code and its consistent behavior however and some communities missing up to 30% of posts or being completely 'defederated' due to unknown bugs is an issue worth talking about. Mod tools are useless if your community can't even talk to each other properly and the framework is falling apart, foundations need to be built first.

[–] Penguincoder 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I care about code and consistent behavior as well as uptime too. Your comment here is not beeing nice though. Please refrain from commenting as such.

Remember:

Be kind. Don't be snarky.
When disagreeing, reply to the argument instead of attacking the person.

[–] Kaldo 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I understand the kind of interpretation where dismissing someone's argumented criticism with "chill bro" is fine but calling that out as non-constructive and patronizing is "not nice". I wonder if you'd have the same stance if his comment were posted in the "Lemmy UI issues" thread made by a fellow admin, dismissing their criticism with "its not like a nuclear plant runs on it, stop complaining".

[–] communist 2 points 1 year ago

The problem is that Lemmy had MAJOR architectural changes this update that were very necessary, I don't think this will be a huge issue ever again say, 6 months from now.

Also look at the rate of Lemmy development now, it's absurd, expect things to be better once it has slowed down.