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When the alternative to him was Marine Le Pen, it's hardly surprising most people wanted him and not an open fascist.
Lots of us wanted neither, we juqt settled for 5 more years of "Macron the dipshit that is covertly racist" to avoid 5 years of "Le Pen the dipshit that is overtly racist". And we hate every minute of it.
I feel that's a lot of countries right now. USA didn't want Biden, but it was better than Trump. The UK is facing an election where we'll have to chose between Starmer or Sunak(?).
The system feels broken beyond repair.
The choice is between a perpetrator and a collaborator.
Personally, it doesn't matter much to me how palatable a politician is when the end result is the same.
This bullshit again? Macron and Le Pen are not the same. Biden and Trump are not the same. Fuck outta here with this both sides bullshit
Also, if seeing other people's perspectives on these issues is upsetting to you, you have the option to block them.
Seeing an ignorant person's perspective isn't upsetting me, it's just disappointing that this is as high as you seem to be able to reach. Also, edit your original comment if you want to add more; I'm not gonna have multiple convo threads with you and this is the last time I'm responding to a separate comment from the main one.
I mean, the way they present themselves is different. I understand that you think that presentation matters, but from where I'm sitting, it's insignificant, because they're using the power they have in ways that help the resurgence of fascists instead of stopping it.
We get conservative results even though we voted for progressive promises.
Acting like I'm the one worried about presentation while you're pretending their actions are the same is laughable. While Macron is a piece of shit, he doesn't court dictators or push far right ideology. Biden is a neoliberal scumfucker, but he doesn't court dictators, Christian nationalists, capture the SCOTUS with Christian activists, lead to millions of deaths by calling the severity of pandemic a hoax, foment and insurrection, etc.
Both being bad doesn't mean one isn't objectively, substantially worse. I'd advise you to progress past a middle school understanding of politics if you're going to act informed on these topics.
I've read that Macron's party is responsible for the rise of Le Pen through use of the "pied piper" strategy similarly to how the Democrats supported Trump in the 2016 primary because they thought having just an extremist would make people feel obligated to vote for them however conservative they were because at least they weren't openly fascist. If that's true, the resurgance of the actual factual French Nazi party is Macron's fault as well.