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Whelp, here we go again

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[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, it's about to become a never ending fight

Ad blockers vs ad blocker detectors.

At least untill the lobbyist big companies lobby for laws to start suing people for using ad blockers in "violation" of their tos due to a form of "circumvention measure"

At least right now, the code is freely available due to the nature of how HTML, JavaScript and CSS works. - this nature is exactly how a government agency got caught leaking SSNs of teachers, and due to the law, couldn't perform legal action at what they called a "hacking" attempt.

It feels like its only a matter of time before these shitty companies seek to close that law in order to start calling HTML analysis "hacking"

[–] flux 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think publically available blockers can really win this battle in the end. After all, in the end game Google could just

  1. setup a system that runs a browser
  2. downloads the updates as they come
  3. automatically modify the system so that blockers are detected or they fail to block it

This is possibly even relatively easy with the help of LLMs nowdays.

On the other hand, Google backend code is completely secret and for frontend and protocols they can apply opfuscation techniques, requiring manual updates by blocklist maintainers or adblock developers, taking a lot of time continuously. I suppose LLMs could help here as well, but it's harder and such attempts could even be detected by Google, because they would need to be tested against their system.


The only solutions I see are to move on from Youtube, have private blockers that don't become too popular, or tolerate the ads.