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I'm not a fediverse admin, but I like to think that if I was I would find a way to automatically defederate with these cloudflare instances. Open source code doesn't mean anything if it can only run on proprietary infrastructure.
More abstractly, I don't feel like there's inherently anything wrong with the sort of thing, but the fact that Cloudflare Corporation in particular is doing this rubs me the wrong way
@anova Why would you ban yourself from interacting with someone who voluntarily chooses provider X or Y or Z for anything? That's their choice, not yours.
Half the fediverse already runs on servers provided by only 3 companies. If anything, adding more to the mix, both implementations and hosting providers, is healthy for a decentralized ecosystem.
Because I'm petty
I also don't know those three companies off the top of my head, and while I definitely believe you, I can't imagine they are anywhere near as big as Cloudflare. If you're talking about cloud service providers, I'd also consider running an instance that ignores say, AWS instances, but I think that's a bit different since they don't specifically provide "activitypub" services afaik. With Cloudflare, it's much more explicit
@anova Same. If Amazon created their own ActivityPub implementation, that would be yet another one that has to interop with all the other implementations, thus creating a healthier, more diverse ecosystem. Now people are mostly just running Mastodon on AWS.
The Cloudflare move is important not because of their infra, but because it's a new server implementation, which can only run on Cloudflare, thus always having to interop with other implementations (except for insular, corporate use cases).