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The shitshow in the Whitehouse yesterday really brought it to light - the U.S. can no longer be trusted with our secrets. Its time to leave 5 eyes. I would create a new intelligence sharing union with the other 3 members, on condition that they also leave. Inviting France and other EU states might also make sense.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Careful. Last time Australia threatened to deny America access to our intelligence apparatus they did a coup and took down our government

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you. I had no clue about this meddling. It's worth noting that M16 was involved as well, and the coup was conducted using archaic British monarchy laws.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are circumstantial reasons to suspect MI6 (N.B.: Military Intelligence. Not the number 16.), and the Queen's involvement certainly makes it possible. But there isn't actually strong evidence that they were involved, and there's a much less clear motive for it. (Some general motive in terms of Australia moving to the left, but not the specific motive of the threat to shut down a CIA-run facility in Pine Gap.)

By contrast, we now know that the Governor General (the Queen's official representative in Australia) at the time was referred to as "our man" by the CIA and he involved with organisations that we now know were CIA funded. The CIA also had their "coupmaster" (nicknamed for his known involvement in other coups) appointed as Ambassador to Australia.

Thanks for the extra info. Seems highly likely. Also yeah I know it's MI6, I swear I typed that. I'm gonna blame autocorrect 😤