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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The conversation is still about this clip and not the actual policy, though.

Which I'm sure pisses Trump off, so there is that, but it maybe shows the press hasn't learned anything. And it's too late for the US, but there is still a far right surge to contain back in civilization, so it's about time they figure it out.

Note that I'm not including the UK there, Labour government or not. That BBC headline is at least as shocking as the event itself.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

nah that's how you flood the zone. it's what the camp has being doing for years. announce something batsoot insane, do some publicity stunt that's also kinda insane to drone out said thing, finish the announced thing, rinse and repeat. Musk learned it when he changed the then–Twitter logo to a Doge to flood against Epstein-related allegations.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

It is definitely standard MO, and both press and online chatter are letting them get away with it, with no indication that will ever change so far.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if the US comes back from this, launches into a long series of progressive changes in the world's biggest pendulum swing in centuries, and then all of Europe hits this fascist path it's already starting in on, will Americans say snide things like "back in civilization"? Or will we know better?

Probably not.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, US conservatives are still mocking the French as cowardly, collaborationist and militarily ineffective on account of WW2, so if any of them need a ladder to get down from any high horses they may be stuck on I think I have one in the back.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

See, your mistake is actually giving a damn what conservatives think.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't. Don't much give a damn what Americans think, either, assuming there's a distinction to be made there.

At this point I'm camp decoupling. If they want their nationalism so bad they can have it. Quietly, if at all possible.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It won't be quiet. It won't be clean. It'll be messy and painful for just about everyone.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 14 hours ago

Sure. It'll just be messy and painful for me a few weeks after the people who caused all this, so I intend to enjoy them.