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I'm curious what in the hell the federal government has done in anyone's lifetime to engender any pride in this country. Canada isn't a people, it's a federal government, the maple leaf, their symbol. Disregarding the off chance there may be a WW2 veteran lurking here, name one thing "Canada" has done to be proud of since 1970. Not something some guy did, not something some hockey players did, one thing that atrocious excuse for a federal government has ever done to instill any pride in their people, that wasn't fucking propaganda exercises. All I can think of is legalizing gays and hiding Vietnam draftees.
Man get the fuck out of here
Does a country need to change the world to be proud of it?
Not the question that was asked. I literally meant internal actions of the federal government that would make a person proud. Doesn't sound like you're very proud of your country either, probably just like the land and your neighbours.
The fact that you need to find a national pride to find value in having a nation is concern. We are a people linked by a shared history and culture. There are elements I am proud of, such as our penchant for relative kindness and understanding, and our recent pushes towards more progressive stances and living, and there are elements I am disgusted by, such as our need to find value in being marginally better than the bigots to our south.
I place no value on the nationalism that you seem to be suggesting we should be finding, and even if I did, I wouldn't be looking for it through our government. Our government is just that: our government. They're not our wayward child, nor our burgeoning hobby. We aren't supposed to be "proud" of them; they're supposed to work for us. They are not our values, nor our culture. At best, they're supposed to represent our culture and values. When they do, I'm not "proud," I'm satisfied, and when they don't, I'm angry, not disappointed.
No. We aren't. But more to the point, I guess you agree with my initial thought then "Might as well, this country has become a joke"
Fuck no, I do not agree with you, and I'm not sure I could disagree with you more. The notion that we're a joke of a country unless we find some insane, nationalistic zeal led by a small circle of ogliarchs is fucking insane.
Biggest fucking joke in the western hemisphere
After you, Don trump, elon musk, their sycophants and pretty much your entire echo chamber, new jersey, Florida, your political ideas, cyber trucks.....
I mean with the amount of corruption in my country, what I am proud of is my community and culture. I think that is most people though. Except the ones indoctrinated with xenophobia.
The federal government has done everything in their power to stamp out anything resembling local cultures, using taxation, economic policies, the RCMP, moronic laws and policies, and unchecked immigration to wipe all that away as best they could, and replace it with a "post national state", in their own disgusting words.
Its more about cheap labour to undermine labor rights rather than any sort of ethnic cleansing.
Two birds, one stone, divided populace. So even if you are right, why the fuck would that make you want to defend them?
Then get the fuck onboard with progress or be left behind.
You're sniffing glue buddy.
I'm not proud of Canada anymore. I wa when younger now there just doesn't seem to be anything there to be proud of. I don't even want to stand during the anthom anymore but dondue to pressure. Why am I hear family and it's my home. Just don't feel pride about being Canadian.
The RCMP revealing themselves over time to be the crookedest sonsabitches in the country sure hasn't helped matters.
I mean if I'm allowed to have a non true or false pride and can have some level of granularity, I'm proud of a lot of things.
I think we've done pretty good with national pharmacare, and dental care. I know its not perfect, and it came to slow, and the roll out wasn't great, but I have pride in the fact that were offering it.
I'm proud of the way we extended the way EI covers maternity and sick leave in the 1970s.
I'm proud of the legalisation of marijuana, because it now means that people have access to a product that gets tested for quality and health concerns.
Sure none of it is perfect, but I'll take 30% of what it should be as long as its a start. If we wait for perfection well never get anywhere. We just have to keep striving for better.