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My Sci-fi unpopular opinion is that 2001: A Space Odyssey is nothing but pretentious, LSD fueled nonsense. I've tried watching it multiple times and each time I have absolutely no patience for the pointless little scenes which contain little to no depth or meaningful plot, all coalescing towards that 15 minute "journey" through space and series of hallucinations or whatever that are supposed to be deep, shake you to your foundations, and make you re-think the whole human condition.

But it doesn't. Because it's just pretentious, LSD fueled nonsense. Planet of the Apes was released in the same year and is, on every level, a better Sci-fi movie. It offers mystery, a consistent and engaging plot, relatable characters you actually care about, and asks a lot more questions about the world and our place in it.

It insists upon itself, Lois.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't care for Deep Space 9.

Characters were mostly bad and uninteresting - they had to bring back worf. Limited plots stuck on a station - they had to add a ship. Then start a war just to have something to do.

[–] redpanda@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now THIS is a bold claim. DS9 is the only consistently beloved Star Trek series I've seen online. I personally enjoyed it more than most of the series.

[–] frogfriend@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DS:9 is notorious for being the least Trekky of all the shows.

Not to mention it's a blatant B-tier rip-off of Babylon 5.

[–] dcheesi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, upon re-watching, the depiction of the Ferengi (especially the Grand Nagus and the ruling council) runs uncomfortably close to anti-semitic tropes. I'm honestly surprised that in a franchise & fanbase as "progressive" as Trek, this was allowed to slide past largely uncommented-upon.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I think TNG is much more loved.

[–] Cyzaine@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I disagree with you completely, but I boost your opinion and am glad you can voice it!

[–] julianh@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I think this the only other truly unpopular opinion here lmao.

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I liked DS9 over all, but it;s 9 series could have been 5 and lost nothing, and could have been 3 and lost little! so... much... filler!

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey. Hey? Hey.

I see you.

Honestly, the entire gaggle of nerds complaining online that modern Trek isn't Trek should take another look at DS9, because even at the time I thought it was a different show reskinned as Trek and missed the spirit of the thing. I'm assuming the other show is Babylon 5, but I never got into that, either.

[–] funnyletter@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of nerds seem super pissed at Star Trek: Picard because it's "not Trek" and "too dark" but I actually like it because it's like "ummm this is colonialism actually???" and I have a tough time watching most older Trek because it is in fact colonialism actually.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's both. I don't love it when the Federation stands in for the US specifically, but since the pushback against that notion comes and goes, if it is the US then it is colonialism, actually.

But that cuts both ways, I dislike it when Picard does it, but also when TNG does it. Picard has bigger issues than that, though.

[–] SFaulken@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I liked Picard just fine. It was uneven, and didn't feel super "Star Trek"-y, but was an alright show.

Discovery is the one I gave up on. I just don't like it.