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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man that page has got some really wild sentences.

Park's claims that human corpses commonly float down North Korean rivers were criticized by Swiss businessman Felix Abt, who lived and worked in the DPRK for seven years.

Now I don't know if there's any validity to her claim, but love the expert testimony from Swiss entrepreneur who's been allowed to tour Pyongyang for a bit.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 23 hours ago

It's frustrating because there is plenty of real evidence that North Korea is in a bad way. That satellite image is stark and the volume of reports claiming food shortages and lack of basic services are hard to dispute, as is the sheer obsessive control exercised by the government to avoid the depictions of it. You don't need to make up stories about using human corpses to fertilize your fields or whatever.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah, yes. In case you were wondering about said Swiss businessman and whether or not his actions in the DPRK were morally sound, once again, Wikipedia has something to say.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Somehow not the most horrific thing Swiss did just by trading (that would be war profiteering during Iran-Iraq war, when they sold chemical weapons precursors to one side and gas masks to other)

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

it's almost as if international trade of weapons creates perverse incentives

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 hours ago

Gets easier if you want both sides to lose

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago

Dont think that anybody involved in this is going to be a good person. Of all the people mentioned, Pinker is prob the least worse here. And that is saying much.