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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this - gonna try posting last week's thread a different way this time)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] aio@awful.systems 5 points 8 hours ago

i read the title and was like damn we're dunking on game engines now?

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

really into this whole far right coup and far right right hegemony thing a lot of countries are trying out rn. really cool

[–] s3p5r@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

As resources get scarcer the lurch back to fascism is going to get worse. People always turn to the simple (but categorically wrong) answers when times get hard, and blaming people who come from other places has historically been a winner for simple and wrong answers. Refugees are a symptom but they'll be targeted as the cause because their numbers will swell with increasing "natural" disaster frequency and severity.

And I have no idea what I can do about it that wouldn't amount to pissing in the wind.

Sometimes I wonder what future generations will think looking back on the content of today's internet and humanity's total inability to demonstrate the humane.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like SK gave the bastards a hard nope, at least.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

this was the most half-assed coup in recent memory, hands down

  • hey army do a coup for me

  • parliament said no

  • ok

no fanatical loyalists in army, no militia or PMC, zero planning at all, even Prigozhin got that sorted out. very similar thing happened just two years ago in Peru, and this year in Bolivia. and same thing will happen this time, impeachment is already written as we speak. army also exactly knew what was going on and didn't participate for a reason

by the way, south korean presidents don't have a habit of leaving office peacefully, so it all tracks. it's either impeachment or coup or long prison term just after leaving office

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 11 hours ago

pivot to ai has a new beg post, but mostly i wanna show off Sad Robot In Snow:

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

edit: context https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/chatgpt-david-mayer-name-glitch-ai-b2657197.html

Time for another round of Rothschild nutso's to come around now that ChatGPT can't say one of their names.

At first I was thinking, you know, if this was because of the GDPR's right to be forgotten laws or something that might be a nice precedent. I would love to see a bunch of people hit AI companies with GDPR complaints and have them actually do something instead of denying their consent-violator-at-scale machine has any PII in it.

But honestly it's probably just because he has money

I think Sam Altman's sister accused him of doing this to her name awhile ago too (semi-recent example). I don't think she was on a "don't generate these words ever" blacklist, but it seemed like she was erased from the training data and would only come up after a web search.

Being erased from the training data is frankly even more galling than the kind of brute force GDPR compliance they seem to have been using. It puts the lie to any claim that they're just "moving fast and breaking things" without mind to the consequences, because clearly there was some reason to prune the training data and make sure that the model didn't have certain information when it was to the company's (or the founder's) liking.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 7 points 15 hours ago

Pat walking into the last board meeting

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 17 hours ago

Strong suspicion that the "interim co-CEOs" bit is leading to an attempted sell-off/spin-off of the chip fabs (which are the part of the company getting the nice juicy government subsidies)

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Sorry about more insta content. Saw this today and it tickled me:

Left: pinker

Right: Yeonmi Park, who is known for defecting from north korea and speaking about it. That should be enough if she just told the truth, but for one reason or another (grifting dosh) she has started just making shit up, which I recommend you research for yourself if you are interested.

Anyway the above picture probably doesn’t come as a surprise when you consider her current tack: saying that “woke” and “cancel culture” are the first steps in a country becoming like North Korea. She’s been on JRE (where she memeably claimed that there is only one train in NK that often requires people to push it). She has a book with her anti-woke thesis with opening shit-volley by old mate JBP.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Man that page has got some really wild sentences.

Park's claims that human corpses commonly float down North Korean rivers were criticized by Swiss businessman Felix Abt, who lived and worked in the DPRK for seven years.

Now I don't know if there's any validity to her claim, but love the expert testimony from Swiss entrepreneur who's been allowed to tour Pyongyang for a bit.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 10 points 13 hours ago

It's frustrating because there is plenty of real evidence that North Korea is in a bad way. That satellite image is stark and the volume of reports claiming food shortages and lack of basic services are hard to dispute, as is the sheer obsessive control exercised by the government to avoid the depictions of it. You don't need to make up stories about using human corpses to fertilize your fields or whatever.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. In case you were wondering about said Swiss businessman and whether or not his actions in the DPRK were morally sound, once again, Wikipedia has something to say.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 18 hours ago

Dont think that anybody involved in this is going to be a good person. Of all the people mentioned, Pinker is prob the least worse here. And that is saying much.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what she said? That's literally so much funnier than any of the memes

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah in terms of the meme mutation timeline, I believe the initial use would have been from leftists to mock outrageous/outlandishly false claims, in line with Park saying the trains thing. Since then the format has been mutated to also include “thing that exists in culture that is then exaggerated to be construed as dystopian” (see the example that soyweiser posted) and also “thing that is straight up dystopian but it’s something from the west”. So I think the only things that would approach the level of humor/absurdity of the original would have to be something else crazy out of YP’s mouth.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL @ North Korea being "woke". If they are, why are they assisting Russia, the Right's Great White Hope, in a war against a country that these people also denigrate as "woke"? But hey, never let facts or logic get in the way of a good grift.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, with how young she is there's absolutely no credibility she can offer on how a country becomes like the "D""P""R"K. But I can see the superficial similarities between the right-wing griftoverse's depiction of cancel culture and the kind of cultural authority that gets exercised. That Bogeyman is why they use that fanciful description, after all. I can see how easily she could get radicalized from there, not that it justified any of the lies she's believed and passed on or invented outright.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

And right now South Korea's president has declared martial law and banned all political activity, I guess she'll be just fine with that.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Martial law and free speech restrictions are only bad if the bad guys do it, also we get to decide who the bad guys are

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, i wonder how laughably terribad takes she will try to spin for her grifting gig out of this situstion

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 10 hours ago

I was curious so looked her up. I discovered that there is no rule of law in Chicago and you can just murder people in the streets. And unrelated she did a colab with Gad Saad about her failing dating in the USA or something. Didn't watch the vid, just saw she had a few vids with Saad. (Vids from a year ago which almost nobody watched 35k/15k views. Sad!). On her twitter she has said nothing about SK, but apparently is upset about cancel culture and DEI. The grift is strong with this one.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait is that the woman from that meme? E: Yes she is I didnt know that image was from JRE.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m just hoping that i get a plaque or something 1000 years from now in the Harvard meme archaeology department or similar

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

meme archaeology

Finally a job im qualified for.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

a good follow on insta if you use it

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

That guy must be a communist. Cause that is a big red flag.