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You're probably going to have a bad time in the Fediverse if you're hoping to avoid viewpoints you don't agree with entirely. The best advice I can give you for now is to just block that community and move on with your life. As much as I hate TD and its members, the sh.itjust.works admin has the right to administer their instance however they want. If they end up with a sufficiently toxic total userbase where their users are causing problems on other instances to the point they are a net negative, they will end up being defederated by other more reasonable instances. Beehaw is being pretty aggressive with defederation for things like this, so if you're looking for the safest of spaces in the Lemmyverse they really might be more your speed. Or you can start your own personal instance and defederate whoever you want 🤷
the viewpoint "these immigrants need to be gunned down and trans people need to be eradicated" are not things i "dont agree with entirely" they are a vile evil toxin that cannot be tolerated.
yeah obviously, idk who is pretending otherwise?
You have no room to talk, your instance bends over backwards to be a safe space for neoliberals who support unipolarity and the exploitation of the third world.
"But some users disavow the US, etc."
Yeah, but virtually all of them nonetheless parrot the State Department's talking points about its enemies. That token "both sides" bullshit only supports the status quo while undermining the possibility of a positive alternative.
You'd need to point where the people on TD are actually calling for these actions (even if their members would agree with those sentiments). Calls for violence are not protected speech and are not acceptable on any platform. I don't make a habit of browsing TD, but what I see is mostly the dumbest of dumb right wing memes with a side of bigotry/misogyny, not openly supporting nazis and calls for violence. Those latter 2 would be a pretty solid case for instant defederation unless/until the admins of sh.itjust.works ban TD and its members imho.
You're the one trying to tell the admins of sh.itjust.works what they should do on their instance instead of blocking and ignoring them. I certainly wouldn't let TD and its members stay on my instance, but it's ultimately their decision. If they let the shithousery continue to grow and fester, they will see themselves defederated, I assure you. Until then, TD will be downvoted mercilessly into oblivion and that'll be pretty funny. I kind of don't mind seeing these clowns mocked by the fediverse relentlessly myself.
That's the great thing.
SIJW admins are admining their instance how they choose. They choose to allow TD.
Other instance admins can choose to admin their instance how they want.
If they don't want TD, they can choose to not have any TD communities in their instance, and they can choose to defederate from any instances that choose to have TD communities.