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Try ENTE!! Everything you store is e2e encrypted, their software is foss and you can share files easily, they even have a mid free plan. I've been using them for some time and they offer a great service.
It's https://www.ente.io
My referal code is SVZWEU, you can use it if you want to get an extra 10 gb for the both of us, free of charge, when signing up to a paid plan.
You don't have to use it, but thx if you do!
I self host. I'm not going to pay money for someone else to save my photos on another computer when something free (immich) does the same thing for me on my own hardware.
Ente is also able to be self-hosted.
Thanks for posting this. It isn’t overly obvious on their main page. I’m going to try this out. I like that their mobile apps support this as well.
Be sure to try Immich, too. If you don't need E2E it's better in my book. Especially with local-AI powered search, which Ente doesn't have.
Thanks for the extra recommendation. I’ll definitely check it out. What caught my eye mostly was the clean mobile app of Ente. Immach’s mobile app sure looks close. I don’t technically need E2E since I’m self-hosting… Decisions decisions…
That was actually what made my decision. My drive is encrypted at rest, and E2E makes it much harder to do other things I may want to do with my library. For instance, I have a bunch of photography sessions imported as local libraries, so they're just folders on disk I can modify outside of Immich as I want.
Awesome. Thanks!
I’m going to be trying this on my Kubernetes cluster. I don’t suppose either of you (Matt/fmstrat) have that working - do you?
https://immich-app.github.io/immich-charts/
Thank you so much!
There is an official helm chart for immich that works very well. Whenever there are breaking changes you may need to update the chart version to apply the breaking changes (ie the recent port change). Doing it with helm chart makes it so you don't have to do much more than change 2 version numbers on occasion.
Great, so i pay them for me to host my own photos on my own hardware? That makes no sense.
If you pay them, they host it for you: one copy on B2, one copy on wasabi and a backup on scale way.
If you don't pay them, you need to provide a S3 compatible endpoint for storage, a postgresql database and a coordinator. Doesn't need fancy stuff
But you don’t have to pay them for self-hosting. ???
Put this in the other comment, but why?
I see people suggest Ente, but Immich has been fantastic for me, and is funded by FUTO which means it's less likely to enshittify.
In other words:
Try Immich!! It's worth trying.
they both have their pros and cons, immich is still in very early development and lacks some neccesery features in my books. thx for the suggestion tho
What? Now you're just plain wrong.
Immich is more feature rich, has self-hosted AI, is 3 years old, has 52K+ stars on GitHub vs Ente's 16K (with 2 less years no less), almost 4 times as many forks, and has a public roadmap.
How is that "very early development"? Want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this feels very "Ente insider" to me. Outside of E2E encryption, what specifically does Ente offer that Immich doesn't?
Using stars as a way of deciding if something is better is such a weird way to prove your rightness. And i personally don't like that you have to self host. Ente has it as an option and it's easy to do but that's all i want it to be as with any service, an option. If you want to host photos for multiple users while respecting their privacy Ente is a better option. Photos are end to end encrypted, it means that only the person that uploaded the photo can see it (unless they shared it to someone else), not even the admin of the server (you) can see their photos. A problem with Ente tho is that the client has to do the work where as immich does it on the server so it's faster and stronger. No, i'm not paid by ente to post these, are you tho?
I currently use immich with 40k+ files.
I think what OP meant by 'early development' is the updates with break Changes.
Ive been using immich in docker self hosted for 1.5 years.
I use authentik for user management and single sign on.
The breaking changes have only ever been minor changes I've had to make to my docker compose file, its always come back with no issues after the well described changes in the release notes and several of the changes I didn't even have to do because it did not apply to me.
This is petty standard stuff for anyone used to self hosting but if that sounds like its not for you then check out the roadmap. The stable version is expected next year sometime. Wait for that before giving it a try.
https://immich.app/roadmap/
Personally I like the fast development, I find myself likely and using at least 1 new feature ever major update. I think this will easily become the best photo manager in 1 to 2 years and it will not longer be much of a competition
btw i know i copy pasted this from one of my previous posts but it's related and i didn't feel like retyping all of this just to recommend something. I am not a bot! (probably)
I really like Ente.
Disadvantages:
Advantages:
I'd put the client ML as a disadvantage.
Having the AI processes run on a beefy server is much nicer in my book, but of course can only be done without E2E encryption.
Yes, it depends. In my case my server is underpowered so I didn't like how much resources other galleries used (not only immich but also librephotos, photoprism)