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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

yeah its not like republicans tied ukraine aid to aid for israel or anything. /s

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this gets into a completely seperate thing. He could not give them it without congress but the US only very reluctantly restricts commerce. Its a very different thing to say im not going to fund your war and im not going to sell you stuff when dealing with a long time ally. And no you don't just throw away diplomatic relationships easily. If countries did they would have stopped having dealing with us in trumps first term.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh so you're telling me Biden had no choice. Ithe most powerful man in the world couldn't do anything but enable Israel and its genocide?

Oh that makes sense and doesn't fly in the face of reality at all. /s

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would not have been impossible but it would have been problematic. I mean he could send troops with the war powers act. Its possible but not really something he could realistically do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Problematic to stop genocide? Reflect on what you just said, that's monstrous.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Maybe we shouldn't have supported Ukraine if it meant supporting genocide

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You seem very picky as to which genocide is ok.

The Russian land grab and physical and cultural genocide of Ukraine.

The Israeli land grab and physical and cultural genocide of Gaza/Palestine.

You can’t be absolutist about one and hand wave the other.

No purity for you.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The US is not currently causing the genocide in Ukraine.

The US has not spent 80 years covering for genocide in Ukraine.

The US has not spent 80 years being the attack dog of another nation commiting genocide in Ukraine.

I'm not in Russia. I was not born in Russia. I do not pay taxes to Russia.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And in a mirror universe where that decision got made someone's arguing "maybe we shouldn't have cut funding to Israel if it meant allowing the genocide in Ukraine."

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what gets me is would the hamas attack and thus the isreali response happen without putin. Im very suspicious that he was not pushing on making more chaos globally to get our of the cluster fuck he started.

[–] Tiltinyall 2 points 2 days ago

Russia did it many times in the middle east. This isn't new really.