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It appears Trump is going to be the next president of US. I'm not sure such a thread is needed in the first place, but here goes.

Feeling anxious? Desperate? Got the expected result?

What do you think went wrong? What do you think went right? What do you think the future holds?

EDIT: it's official - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/us/results

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[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oi. you still don't get it do you? its not about you and your vote. its about others and their vote. harris gave her base nothing to work with. 'Excuse me miss in purple state Y, you like abortions right? great vote for harris! excuse me sir you like abortion right? vote harris!'

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Daily show ran her stuff regularly. Sure, No one cared about her 82 page policy book. Or her talks about how she was going to improve tax credits for lower class and increase tax for $400k+ people.

But i agree, I don't get it. In the end Harris didn't need to inspire vote for her because Trump sure inspired me to not let him win. Biden sure did not inspire me either but for some reason he got 15 mil more votes. I thought his nomination was hard BS at the time.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Daily show was not who she needed to reach. this is why you don't rely to ad buys to mobilize voters. sigh. you werent the person she needed to get to vote. you were always willing to vote for her. oops.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You speak truth.

I guess Biden was just a miracle for the dems or he just had way more time to campaign.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, not a miracle, people on the left explicitly warned everyone 4 years ago biden would have their support for one term. To the point he even committed to it before immediately walking it back post election. Biden is a proxy for his policies not the person specifically. Swapping out w/ harris and no change in positions wasnt acceptable either.

The dems have been underestimating the left wing population for decades despite repeatedly hitting the hornets nest and losing.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm don't remember people saying that so I'll defer to you there. I do recall Biden saying he was a 1 time candidate but I thought it was because he was Old.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hopefully you'll remember this election. The dynamics were very similar.

People like myself were pissed and had to deal with peoples lesser evil nonsense. When biden won the primary due to warren/bernie split ticket. We were very explicit about it (all during the tail end of the primary) which is what led biden to that statement.

Biden was forced out due to two factors: No left wing support (dont break strikes, commit genocide's joe). And no corporate support. (Because of the wonder kid khan)

Harris then tried to cater to the corporate douches and genocide joes. You all found out as a result what we've been telling you you.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope we all get to see true progressive candidate those people can vote for. I'm scared we won't get the chance.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Focus locally, find them, promote them, protect them. Ping me if you need help doing this.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hope to see you on the other side. I really do.