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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

Even if you are right I'll take doing the right thing for the wrong reasons over the fucking disappointment and self destruction coming from the United States.

Doesn't matter how you spin it, China is objectively better for the world right now.

You can feel morally superior all the way to societal collapse

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

China is objectively better for the world right now.

lol

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

ok educate me. On the topic of climate in which ways has (or will) the United States be better? I'd appreciate the optimistic perspective.

Does the argument extend beyond China bad?

[–] averyminya 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When the people in China can go outside in public without wearing filtration masks I'll consider start taking their environmental approaches more seriously.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

What century are you from? The localized pollution problems you're referring to have been resolved. I know you won't trust any source anyone here provides, so go ahead and look it up. Just because you got used to your government being useless and slow, doesn't mean other governments are the same.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

What you're bringing up, even if true, would be explained equally well by population density.

China's per capita emissions are lower than the US and Canada https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

They're also innovating and leading in solar technology and cheap EVs.

You're pointing at subjective and anecdotal "evidence" where are your hard stats?

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