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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 109 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

As an indigenous Canadian I can confirm this.

Both of my parents were born and raised in the wilderness. I don't mean that they were born in a modern hospital and later raised in the bush. They were born in the 40s in a teepee with the help of traditional midwives.

Dad was a great hunter and trapper and did all the things you could imagine a hunter and gatherer could do.

Mom did the same as well, not as much or as well as dad but good enough to survive on her own or with children. She hunted birds, fished and could bring down gut clean prepare butcher moose, caribou, bear, wolf, lynx and any other large animal if she had to .... when she was a young woman that is. She could also travel, walk, snowshoe, use dog team, paddle a canoe, portage, sail, and survive alone in the bush for weeks or months on her own. In her prime, she was a far better hunter and gatherer than most men I know now including myself.

It only makes sense .... prehistoric hunters and gatherers didn't sit around and relegate women to only do certain things. Everyone no matter what gender had to be capable of doing everything in order to ensure and secure the survival of everyone.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Early enough in human history we weren't even relying on weapons to hunt as much as the fact that despite not having as high of a top speed as our prey, we could literally chase them until they died of exhaustion, that doesn't seem like gender would make too much of a difference in it. We all get out ran by prey in the short term, and we all have the stamina and speed to catch up.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Stamina and precision are universal human traits, yep. Nobody can toss a rock and then run a marathon like an angry hairless ape

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Whether that hairless ape was a man or woman also didn't matter.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Aerodynamics change very little, yep

[–] Smith6826@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Whether that hairless ape was a man or woman also didn't matter.

Yep, and we can all look at verifiable evidence like professional sports and Olympic records to show.....oh, wait a second...

Ok let's forget that indisputable evidence for a sec...We can look at scientific analysis of dug up remains to see what their body types and structures were like an..d...uh.... Huh.

Ok denying all that open-shut evidence, let's study endocrinology and loo...fuck.

[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

Ayo fellow Canadians here though not indigenous. Thanks for sharing your story!

It makes me sad how overlooked the stories and lessons of the indigenous people are in Canada and the discrimination still present to this day.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'll bet she couldn't carry as much meat as a man tho.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think this is just whitewashing history... Even if you look to the ancient Western world, they had goddesses like Artemis

Generally, men fought wars. Like a lion pride - the males are the defenders because they're bigger and stronger. Hunting doesn't require raw strength - it requires diligence, patience, and/or endurance

But they all hunt. Lionesses are known for it, but lions do it too. Complete division of responsibilities is an insect thing