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It all started with the unofficial godot discord admin dealing with some chuds and people turning their ire towards the Godot Foundation staff instead.

Since Godot has stubbornly remained on the Xitter nazi bar as a valid space for PR and social media interaction and dared to promote the Wokot hashtag and reiterate their progessiveness, the reactionaries infesting that space are now piling on their socials and harassing everyone they can get their eyes on.

Examples

Anyway, solidarity with the targets of harassment. I hope they finally realize that Xitter is a lost cause.

Update: Godot is being review-bombed

Fortunately the reactionary backlash seems to be having the opposite effect

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[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Tbh I'm not sure what your examples are supposed to demonstrate. Blocking someone for saying they should focus on the engine and not politics is astonishingly thin skinned

Kind of hard to follow the thread of most of this but they sure aren't disproving how woke they are by blocking people who even slightly disagree with them.

Also it's just "X" not "Xitter".

[–] Tamo240@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'Xitter' is pronounced 'Shitter' and is common a playful joke

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah I see. I would pronounce it "Zitter" but fair enough. I guess if you're Chinese?

[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

English doesn't really have a well defined way to write down the "zjush" from the "su" in pleasure.

The most accepted ways are "zh" or "x" in English, or ʒ in IPA.

Since most people call it twitter, and Elon want to call it x, so people push them together to make xitter, because it sounds like "shitter" (the crude term for toilet) and because the quality of twitter has declined dramatically to the point that it resembles an unclean toilet.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Interesting. I think zjitter would be the closest I would intuitively pronounce that way.

I don't really know anything about the quality of X but I think resorting to name calling is insanely. (Some with Micro$oft etc. - haven't seen that one for a while!)

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they sure aren’t disproving how woke they are

Why do you think that they need to be doing this?

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because being woke is generally considered to be a bad thing? (Even if people disagree about what counts as woke.)

If you want to take your emotions out of it, remember "political correctness gone mad"? That's basically the 90s "woke" and nobody would aspire to it.

[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because being woke is generally considered to be a bad thing?

No. Being woke is only considered bad in toxic echo chambers where they've tried to poison the word.

Most people who self report as "anti-woke" repeat infectious and carefully crafted but fallacious talking points whenever the term "woke" is said.

But if you bring up a situation where a minority is getting the bad end of the stick and they agree with you that it's bad, they don't realise that they themselves are being woke. They agree with being woke so long as the label "woke" isn't used. It's when you point that out that they start to realise that they've been poisoned against the term.

Being woke simply means that some people don't often get the same affordances as others.

If you accept the general fact that women tend to get paid less for the same amount of work, then you're woke.

If you accept the general fact that black people might not get hired if a person doing the hiring is racist, then you're woke.

If you accept the general fact that some people have to hide the fact that they're not heterosexual in some countries otherwise they'll suffer the death penalty, then you're woke.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Being woke simply means that some people don’t often get the same affordances as others.

See I think that's not what the "anti-woke" people think it means. Turning to urban dictionary, they're using this definition:

Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain minorities in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm.

Irrespective of whether or not anyone actually is woke, I hope you agree that it wouldn't be a good thing (according to that definition).

[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

See I think that’s not what the “anti-woke” people think it means.

That's exactly what I pointed out. The people who provide them their information are actively trying to poison the word to the point that it means something else. But it doesn't, because the poisoning only works in the echo chambers that spread that information.

Turning to urban dictionary, they’re using this definition: [...]

That would be one of the attempts to poison the word. It's worth pointing out that anyone can add a definition to urban dictionary and it's quite often that trolls try to overwhelm existing definitions on there.

[...] (according to that definition).

That comes back to what I said before. People who self report as anti-woke are against anything that uses the label "woke", until they look at what's under the label and they realise they aren't against any of the points the "woke" labelled thing is doing.

They're not actually anti-woke, they're anti-incorrect-label.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I think you're in your own echo chamber. It's not an attempt to poison the word, that's just how its meaning has gradually evolved.

If you ask the general public - not far left people on Twitter - I think they would be more likely to agree with the definition I linked rather than the original definition (you have "woke"n up to social injustice, which is obviously a good thing).

(I'll except the "perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm" bit - I think that is veering into the far right rather than what the man on the Clapham omnibus actually thinks.)

[–] GammaGames 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, so you don’t actually know what you’re talking about! The term “woke” has turned into a toxic catchall used by the generally hateful to describe anything they don’t agree with socially (aka heteronormative white male). It’s pretty obvious when you look at most the people using the term negatively.

There’s no shame in not knowing something and you’ve got a bit of learning to catch up on, good luck!

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s “Xitter”. “X” is nonsense.

You can’t just start calling yourself “X” and decide the word cisgender is a slur now and not expect people to laugh in your face.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

It's not Xitter. I don't understand why you think it is. I don't know what your cisgender comment is talking about.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also it’s just “X” not “Xitter”.

Same energy

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

This has nothing to do with Musk. Honestly these kinds of dismissive comments just make everyone else seem more reasonable.