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I get this is positive, but it saddens me to hear people comment now I can start eating more ethically. There have always been vegan options available. They have been there this whole time, this is merely another option out there, the majority of people will still prefer the "real thing".
The only victim the in the situation is the Animals, their gauntlet of suffering from our hands must come to an end.
For someone like me, there honestly aren't many options. I'm allergic to soy, which eliminates a LOT of vegan meat alternatives. I do mostly eat the options I can have rather than eating meat, but a lot of these options are relatively new and have most certainly not "been there this whole time".
Rice, Beans, Fruits, Vegetables, Seeds, Grains, Nuts, Berries. Eat a variety of those and no animals need to die. There are plenty of vegans with Soy allergies. https://www.livekindly.com/9-vegan-proteins-to-eat-when-youre-allergic-to-soy/
I hope that is helpful, and my sentiment is not to gaslight anybody with dietary restrictions. There is a TON of money being spent to ensure people stay uneducated on what foods are actually healthy to eat.
Honestly a diet of just those foods sounds miserable - I'm also allergic to nuts so that's not an option either. Kudos to the people that decide to limit their diet so much to go vegan, but no one is obligated to do so. People are allowed to be excited that there is going to be a more ethical version of food they enjoy
So I want to clarify here, I know this is a tough subject. I hope to not make anybody feel uncomfortable when I'm sharing my opinion on the internet and if I did so I truly apologize.
People can do incredible things when they have the motivation. I.E. Felipe Nunes. He is a pro skateboarder who does not have legs. He could easily say, "i don't have legs, therefore skateboarding is not an option". Though, he had motivation to do it anyways. Right now, you might not have that motivation to do a thing, while knowing that thing is good. I have 27 years of eating meat, and 6 years of being vegan, i just didn't have any motivation to do it until a traumatic event shifting my perspective. Not everyone will go vegan, it would be cool, but it certainly is possible for a huge majority.
We can rail forever about how vegetarian and vegan options have been available to the majority for quite a while now, but the simple fact of the matter is that meat isn't something a lot of cultures will budge on. Grown meat is the only realistic path towards substantially reduced animal suffering in the "near" future
That's correct, I agree with you. I'm expressing that I've seen this happen time and time again. There are already alternatives out there, not processed alternatives, real foods people have been eating for thousands of years. So when people comment "Oh, FINALLY I can be ethical!" It comes off as disingenuous, people just don't want to change their habits even if it better aligns with their personal beliefs. I still think for a long time this will play out how Beyond and Impossible do. An option for those curious to try it, but the path forward to liberate animals will not come from an exciting new product, it will have to come from a shift in our thinking of food. I just don't see that ever happening.
Beyond and Impossible are hard to compare to something like this. They're not bad alternatives to meat, but they're much more limited than the real thing. I've yet to see a single vegan chicken alternative that compares to actual chicken. People don't swap to Beyond or Impossible, because they enjoy meat.
Cultivated meat is LITERALLY meat. There will be no reason for people that dislike the killing and awful treatment of animals not to switch to cultivated meat once it becomes widely available
They explain their product is not vegan. I'm curious how they source their material and the animal cruelty involved there.