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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

according to some critics

Hey look at what the core of the quote you pulled is

I wonder what the ideology of those critics is

Very democratic indeed lol. Can’t wait how they ensure democracy in North Korea next.

Objectively more democratic than the US. In the US you vote for president and they appoint the ministers of every executive agency. In Korea they vote for those directly.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can’t wait how they ensure democracy in North Korea next

Objectively more democratic than the US.

In Korea they vote for those directly.

They certainly have an interesting method.

Each candidate is preselected by the North Korean government and there is no option to write in a different name, meaning that voters may either submit the ballot unaltered as a "yes" vote or request a pen to cross out the name on the ballot.

A person's vote is not secret

Uhhum.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wow you sure did copy and paste from a wikipedia article that doesn't even bother to source the claim to any of the overtly state propaganda articles at the bottom of the page it uses as a bibliography.

And you didn't even bother mentioning where you got it so we're 2 levels of lack of citations deep.

Gee I wonder why leftists constantly criticize anti-communists for being intellectually lazy and dishonest...

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean I assumed (correctly) you'd figure it was from Wikipedia. How does the North Korean government describe their elections process?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://manoa.hawaii.edu/koreanstudies/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/DPRK-Constitution-2019-EN.pdf

Article 6.

The organs of State power at all levels, from the county People’s Assembly to the Supreme People’s Assembly, are elected on the principle of universal, equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot.

There's no excuse for you not being able or willing to find this yourself and yet being more than willing to spout off as you have.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The organs of State power at all levels, from the county People’s Assembly to the Supreme People’s Assembly, are elected on the principle of universal, equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot

It seems it is the secret ballot one that is conflict with the earlier quote. Do we know if they follow that principle, that their elections are what they say?

There’s no excuse for you not being able or willing to find this yourself and yet being more than willing to spout off as you have.

Laziness, really.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It seems it is the secret ballot one that is conflict with the earlier quote. Do we know if they follow that principle, that their elections are what they say?

You can't beg the question like this and blame it on laziness. You're a deliberate bad faith actor.

Who can we believe? The constitution that defines how that government works or a completely unattributed claim?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean the US constitution has lots of fancy stuff in it that I'm not sure I take to be so in reality. So I'd definitely prefer if we had some sort of confirmation.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So if we don't have confirmation is not true? But the article on wikipedia without confirmation must be true because is on the internet?

Why you doubt only what is not constructed in your mind?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So if we don’t have confirmation is not true?

No, it's just unconfirmed

But the article on wikipedia without confirmation must be true because is on the internet?

The constitution was online too though.

Why you doubt only what is not constructed in your mind?

I don't know what you mean, could you rephrase this one?

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The constitution was online too though.

Published by an american university.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I just meant that if I was believing/disbelieving stuff just because it was online then I would've treated them the same, since both were online