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[–] anlumo@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

Not enough people here (it's a network effect) and it's way too complex to sign up.

My signup process was like this:

  • After going through the list of servers, I had to pick one of them. As someone who went through that whole situation with XMPP, I know that this alone is enough to make most people turn away.
  • Then I picked beehaw, because most of the communities I wanted to join were there. The signup form turned out to be an application form. I spent about an hour mulling over what to write there.
  • Since the page told me that if I didn't hear anything back after 24h, I could consider my application rejected, I wrote another account application at feddit.de after waiting for about 48h.
  • The feddit.de account was approved, but I only noticed by my login working a few days later. I didn't get any notification. That's what I'm using right now.
  • After more than a week, I got an email that my beehaw application was accepted.

I don't know anybody with even half as much patience as myself. Every single step on this way would have been a dealbreaker for a regular person by itself. Creating an account on reddit takes a minute, not a procedure of several days.

Also keep in mind that most people don't understand what federation means in the first place.

[–] azureeight 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

All of this is fairly reasonable for the kind of project it is. Sounds like you and those users don't understand what signing up at any site really means and you've been so separated by the front end, you be have no ability to show grace when basically using a website for free hosted and manages by free people what takes money donated by others?

Why is this anyone else's fault but you? You've gotten spoiled. Maybe everything isn't for you if you cannot even do the bare minimum to participate?

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How do you think I came to be here if I wouldn't be able to do the bare minimum?

I'm very well aware of how it all works on the technical side, but the basic problem is that social networks only work when there's a large network of people connected to each other. If you're satisfied with the maybe hundred people that are active in this community that's great, but the whole discussion in this thread is about why Reddit can't be replaced by Lemmy.

I'm not trying to be judgemental about the process itself, I'm just saying that all of the points I made are dealbreakers for the question of Reddit replacement.

[–] BReel@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s obviously not Reddit numbers, but been a lot of posts about how much lemmy/etc have grown in the last week, largely due to the Reddit fallout.

Clearly it’s not going to replace Reddit overnight, but it’s made large strides very suddenly, and can def close that gap over time. Especially for people like me who enjoyed Reddit, but were just browsers, not really power users

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are signing up, but the number of posts and comments is still very low. In my subscription feed, there’s a new post every few hours and maybe 10 comments per hour. I've been on local message boards with more activity than that back in the 90s.

[–] Powderhorn 4 points 1 year ago

It sounds like you want a firehose. Most of us do not, from the comments I've seen here.

But, hey ... great thing about Lemmy is you get to find a server that suits your needs. If sheer volume is what you're after, other instances are geared toward that.

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