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[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

For the first 2 points: Don't use "Western democracies". This is a US problem. Canada has much stronger labour and home protections.

3rd point: Getting banned online is a "you" problem. Your government has nothing to do with why your shitty opinions get you banned or muted. The fact that you even have the ability to complain about your government online is a luxury many other governments don't afford to their people.

4th point: Whining about cereal variety makes the entire argument hold less water. Who the fuck cares about brands of cereal. Buy your cereal or don't, but shut the fuck up about it. This is an empty complaint about capitalism.

5th point: Fair enough.

I don't directly mean you, OP. Unless you made the meme... In which case I do mean directly you.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think cereal is brought in to demonstrate the absurdity of the situation, where something so basic as worker's or renter's rights are non-existent but somehow energy already has went into something so stupid as cereal, which indeed nobody cares about.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's more about how one of the big reasons America is supposed to be great is all the options you have. 40 brands of cereal is worth it all, is it not?

Not to mention the huge variety of great cheeses, wines, beers and deli meats you should be responsible and not waste your money on.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They complain about cereals because they've been fed so much CCP and USSR Propoganda that they think food variety is a bad thing. They're not one of us.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The point is, all the different brands you see are owned by the same handful of megacorporations So you're not getting actual choice, just the illusion of choice. You're like a dog who gets excited when your owner feeds you dog food from his hand instead of the bowl, because you think it's a treat.

I thought the meme was clear about that, but the average American reads at a third grade level, so I understand reading comprehension can be difficult for you.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pretty shitty thing to say, but anyway...

Just because a few big corporations make cereal, doesn't mean you have an "illusion of choice". It's kind of how the system works. A company that makes 1 brand of cereal also makes dozens of hundreds more. They are using processes and equipment already in place to make a slight variation on existing products. It's kind of just how things work. Same with companies like Asus making dozens of hundreds of variations of monitors. I don't think that's illusion of choice. That's actual choices, with actual differences.

Anecdotally, where I live, large corporations stock the grocery shelves with all their cereals, but local companies do make it in as well. I think in my situation, I do have access to items produced locally.

If you want to make an argument that some dickhead company like Mondelez owns fucking everything, I'm right with you, but whining about cereal variety makes the argument really weak.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

My point is that oppressed CCP advocates hyperfixate on the 74 different largescale cereal companies based in the USA (and also many international brands available) because it is wholly opposed to their own reality.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the fish that what you say is USA only isn't.
Basically where economy (power) is dominated by the few such problems exist.

But I would just like to add that I still cringed when you brought up Canada as the counterpoint to USA. Its not that I disagree with what you wanted to compare, its just that to me those two countries are such an extremely similar shade of late stage systems they seem the same unless in direct comparison.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Okay fair enough. Then as a Canadian, what's your experience like?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

For the first 2 points: Don't use "Western democracies". This is a US problem. Canada has much stronger labour and home protections.

It's a Capitalism problem, Canada suffers from much of the same issues. It isn't as bad, but it is bad.