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'If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that': Harris fires back at Gaza protesters at rally (www.usatoday.com)
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Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, fired back at pro-Palestinian protesters of Israel's war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.

"You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking," Harris said with a long stare, drawing loud cheers from supporters in the crowd before chants of, "Not going back!"

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[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The solution cannot be “don’t vote and let the other guys win” tho right? Kamala could have responded so much better, but that means we roll over?

I just can’t get behind this take. It’s like the religious people who actively seek out the end of the world so they can all be raptured.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The solution cannot be “don’t vote and let the other guys win” tho right?

That is the risk the Kamala campaign is apparently willing to take.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We’re talking about your personal actions, but yeah go off king. Take no responsibility, your actions mean nothing

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Kamala Harris has no one to blame but herself for supporting a genocide

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you mean to say a movement that wants to end genocide is like those who seek the end of the world...

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can make comparisons to the behaviors of those within two different groups without comparing the goals of those groups. Ultimately they’re both self destructive and not going to accomplish their goals.

And because it has to be said, of course I’m against the genocide. I do not think the person I responded to (and others like them) will ultimately be effective in ending it

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 8 months ago

I don't see how the uncommitted movement is self-destructive; they're the ones of families actively being destroyed from the outside. It's like we're asking them for solidarity in response to them asking for some to begin with. In that sense, their behavior is understandable and very much unlike the religious fanatics who support Zionism as a means to the second coming. Those people aren't begging for their families to be saved.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 3 points 8 months ago

My theory is that religious people want that, so they get into heaven without dying first. They are just afraid of dying.

[–] Aurailious 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of what people do, either vote or not vote, a Democrat or Republican will be President next term. The only choice people have is if they want to affect which one it will be.

Is the argument that both parties will be the same? Is US support of Israel the only issue to consider?

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

My point is vote Democrat