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[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

I know we'd all like some scientific actualisation of Star Wars but I mean:

  • They made noise in space 'cause that's fun.
  • There was always gravity on pretty much any ship.
  • I don't really recall any spacewalks so we don't see any instance of 'no gravity'
  • There's hyperspace since lightyears is a bit of a long time.
  • Stormtroopers seem very scientifically and inefficiently accurate

At this point I think the Star Wars movies (the oldies) pretty much ignored a fair bit of the science.

But if it was a death star literally put there in our universe, I think there would be a bit of structural considerations for gravity, but not huge due to it being quite hollow. Gravity is pretty strong when the sphere is entirely comprised of dense rock and no air. A mostly hollow sphere of air where air is something close to 1/1000 that of rock (yes, used the density of water lol) is not going to get much of a rollicking from gravity.

Edit: an interesting 'expose' on the moon landings claim one thing: why were the photos so relatively boring? Because they were real and that's all they could get for all the limited resources they had at the time.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Lightyears measure distance, not time.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.earth 13 points 7 months ago

Quantum Physics joined the chat

When time is measured in meters you know you're in for one hell of a ride.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And parsecs measure distance, not time, and yet here we are.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cube6392 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hate that retcon. Let Han Solo be a sleazy piece of shit conman. Stop trying to make his lies real via retains. Don't make him shoot in retaliation. In the original edit he has an arc. He goes from sleazy piece of shit to respected rebellion leader. Almost like he was a metaphor for how a lot of insurgents have backgrounds as pieces of shit. Now the cannon has him as a squeaky clean guy always doing the right thing even when sometimes he doesn't realize he's doing the right thing

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

How do you feel about Jar-Jar being a Dark Lord of the Sith?

Or midichlorians being attracted to the Force rather than being the source of it?

Do you have other retcons you don't like?

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

okay guy-on-the-way-to-Brock

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

There's plenty of spacewalks in Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels. They don't have gravity there and instead have to use thrusters or magnetized boots.

[–] Sordid 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don’t really recall any spacewalks so we don’t see any instance of ‘no gravity’

Leia did one in the sequels.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

I don't deny the star wars universe is getting a bit more of an update in the cinemas, especially post-Interstellar and whatnot, but space opera in the 80s was really intent on ignoring the stark reality of space for both constraints of filming and viewership. Goddamn fun though.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago

Spacewalks are a bad example anyway. A ship's artificial gravity could extend outside its hull. Conversely, the lack of spacewalks doesn't mean we aren't shown the absence of gravity, since we see the ships themselves maneuvering in a way that suggests a lack of gravity.

Gravity in SW is still kind of fucked, but not "gravity in deep space" fucked.

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Spoilsport! But like you say this is fiction, and entertainment, it is a fantasy world! :)

But yeah, the last one bugs me in soo many films and tv shows. They have super advanced AI robots tech, they can regrow a hand in a day, no more disease and live 257, transport living moving organisations across great distances, have developed telepaths and telekinetics, and can fold space-time, but are fucked if they can shoot straighter than a drunk badger with one 'arm', balancing on a log going down a rapids!

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I think the animated shows had a few more space realistic moments like space walk repairs and such.

Best battle scene in the whole series from clever tactics PoV IMO was Anakin deploying his artillery into a planetary ring system and then using his capital ship to bait Greivous into a pin between the ring mounted tanks and the capital ship.

Best battle overall is obviously the siege of Mandalore just for the absolute knockdown drag out chaos in the middle of a domed city megastructure that's probably meant to be a seed for an eventual ecumenopolis.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

These guys are supposedly in a vacuum outside the first DS:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Zero-G_assault_stormtrooper?file=A_New_Hope-_Joe_Johnston_as_Spacetrooper.jpg

There's a whole Legends thing for Spacetroopers. New canon is pretty much just the guys above.