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[–] MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Recently I've started to think that these and other similar battles are lost.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

I’m a grammar loving curmudgeon. Even I check myself more often than not after I realized the kind of classist tones that come through when arguing against lexicon.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They aren't "lost", because they were never yours to be "fighting" in the first place..

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

This one isn't even real. "Fewer" can only refer to countable things, but "less" can refer to both countable and uncountable things, and has been used that way for hundreds of years. It has never been wrong to say "less."

[–] kspatlas@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Language prescriptivism is a useless endeavour, let the language evolve as it wants, I personally don't mind the use of less in this situation

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I actually kind of disagree in this context. Less is sharper and more readable while conveying the same meaning. The grammar books might say it’s technically incorrect, but I think it was the right word to use here.

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, I went on a rant about this, and someone already did it for me much more concisely.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah, they used less words

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less

Essentially, fewer is normally used for discrete numbers of things (e.g. "fewer apples", "fewer boats", or "fewer cops") while less is used for amounts (e.g. "less water", "less sand", or "less money").

As noted in the above link, there are exceptions. However, the exceptions listed are all with "than" or "or" added. Specifically, it's pointing put that while "fewer items" is correct, "3 items or less" is also considered correct.

In the case of the sign, it is referring to the specific number of officers in the city, so it should use "fewer". Does it matter? No, not really. Why did I bother saying anything? I got a chance to rep grammar and quote Stannis Baratheon at the same time.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago

Good to know. Thanks