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Agreed the cross posting is much more visible and irritating. Not sure it will ever be resolved as it is a fundamental architecture design of the Fediverse. I would hate to see another closed source site be the main alternative but Squabbles is growing fast and with the new app looking so good it may accelerate its growth. Time will tell.
#Mastodon has a feature where it’ll consolidate all the most linked to URLs in its explore tag. It doesn’t take you too any toots about the discussion, but shows that something similar is possible, even with federation involved.
I don't think the architecture has anything to do with it. The algorithms just need improving.
There's no algorithm in the fediverse. That's one of the main selling points.
The feed present on Kbin and Lemmy that delivers content that is "hot" is still an algorithm, it just isn't a hyper-specific one like you'd see on Tik Tok
Sorting by new also is an algorithm.
Not trolling here: I think this is something the fediverse will need to decide at some point. What are the acceptance criteria for timeline presentations? But this would also be a perfect example of diversity: don’t like the way our instance sorts your timeline? No problem, here’s some instances that do it differently.
The goal should be to allow users to choose their own algorithm, including third party algorithms you can install yourself or something.
Sure, but the algorithms themselves will have to be provided by the instance, so I guess different instance might make different choices, for example due to privacy concerns etc.
You could engineer it so users could provide their own algorithm.
It would be a HARD engineering problem, but not impossible, IMO.
Yes, I meant "recommendation algorithm" or "based on dataming algorithm" - I should have been more clearer.
We have various "sorting", "time" and "weight/vote" based algorithms of course.
Even if it just shows the post with most activity once, links to other communities versions inside with comments. Uniqueness determined by url and or title similarity.
Essentially this - just (as much as anything is 'just' in software dev) have any posts pointing to the same link from any community in a collapsible list under the top instance, perhaps prioritizing ones that the user is subscribed to for convenience. Users could then expand the list to see where it is being discussed if desired.
I have said it before, I'd like a universal comment section for the link itself (or maybe topic or timeline specific, mod-linked as well) and a separate one for each article (ideally something longer than a paragraph) that can be easily switched.
Even better if the feed showed the URL and grouped the articles based site-wide stats and user-specific preferences.
The only problem is that sometimes the same link will be posted to different communities for both positive and negative reasons.
Reddit used to have the "other discussions" tab for that sort of thing.
But that's what I'm saying about (Kbin) articles. As in I expect each community to add their thoughts/perspective (or even a break-down) in the form of an article (and then people in said community comment on that). Multiple people maybe, if takes are different enough.
Also I'm saying it should be a faster switch than "other discussions" (which requires going to a separate page first).