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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Microsoft's AI leader claimed that copyright on the internet can be ignored: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/ever-put-content-on-the-web-microsoft-says-that-its-okay-for-them-to-steal-it-because-its-freeware

With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware, if you like. That's been the understanding, there's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, 'do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content.' That's a gray area and I think that's going to work its way through the courts.

Watch the entire interview if you're bored because he is in deep. Microsoft probably just hired the most AI-enthused person they could find.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Never thought I'd see Microsoft suggest downloading a car, but I should have seen it coming.

[–] Eiim@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago

I think even wilder is that he thinks content which has explicitly been labeled "do not scrape except for search engine indexing" is a "gray area" with regards to scraping for AI. Like, that's exactly what it says not to do!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago

He isn't totally wrong re the unspoken rule, but he forgets the second unspoken rule, that the first rule only applies to human being doing entertainment not corporations trying to make money.

[–] 200fifty@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it

Ew... stay away from my content, you creep!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago

see it was wrong when those dirty pirate hippies tried to do it but it's totally fine when microsoft does it because microsoft can't be wrong, see? easy

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

Here's the whole thing from that great quote. Sorkin is not a hard-hitting interviewer, but he just asks the incredibly obvious questions and Suleyman swerves and dodges like a MF while pronouncing at him in an English listen-to-me-you-pleb voice.