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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

okay at this point I should probably make a whole-ass perplexity post because this is the third time I'm featuring them in stubsack but 404media found yet more dirt

... which included creating a series of fake accounts and AI-generated research proposals to scrape Twitter, as CEO Aravind Srinivas recently explained on the Lex Fridman podcast

According to Srinivas, all he and his cofounders Denis Yarats and Johnny Ho wanted to do was build cool products with large language models, back when it was unclear how that technology would create value

tell me again how lies and misrepresentation aren't foundational parts of the business model, I think I missed it

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A couple of examples Srinivas gave on the podcast is “Who is Lex Fridman following that Elon Musk is also following,” or “what are the most recent tweets that were liked by both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.”

Questions asked by the terminally deranged.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago

Or somebody looking for 'the worst posts online' cringe compilation. Musks CEOs must be able to build their companies products not be able to read spreadsheets was a good example.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How can someone implement that and not just be constantly thinking "I really really really do not want to be prosecuted under the CFAA, I should not be doing this".

Ethics clearly don't really work in this profession, so schools should hammer home legal liability as well.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ethics clearly don’t really work in this profession, so schools should hammer home legal liability as well.

I've thought about this a bunch in the past, and tbh the only answer I've come to over many forms of it is "fuck the fucking USA"

it's a place that is structurally built to allow for that kind of evasion and abuse to happen

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago

As long as line goes up nobody knows how rich the perps will be.

And if you don't know how rich the perps will be, how will you know if and how hard they should be punished?