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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's like saying only Hitler was bad in Nazi Germany. And before the whole "NoT EvErY RuSsIaN" argument comes up: silence is compliance! The Russians who are truly against what their country is doing already left in 2022, before the mobilization. Everyone else who is not actively fighting their regime is complicit.

[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a middle point between "the dictator is the only bad guy" and "literally every person on a country the size of a continent is the bad guy"

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can't expect every single person that didn't left Russia to want ukrainians to be murdered and tortured. People there are poor, their entire life is there, their country makes everything to prevent them from escaping and other countries are wary in their regard. You can't make it that simple

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I very much can, because I know what it means if we are compliant with genocidal war mongering terror regimes and where that leads to.

[–] sunbather 1 points 5 months ago

being physically or economically unable to leave a country does not equal supporting putins russia, and how do all the minorities in russia that want their own independence tie into this? should they also leave what they see as a different country because on paper its part of russia? should all the remaining ukrainians leave ukraine were it to be fully occupied and used as a base to attack another country? you act as if russia isnt a truly large country that can be generalized to such extreme extents while theres enormous differences and disagreements within european russia alone

putins russia is a genocidal regime and no1 disagrees with that, but problems of raging alcholism and learned hopelessness among the regular people aside it is not as simple a matter as you boil it down to. everyone have their own fights and many people simply do not have the courage or ability to essentially fight a country but that does not make them worse than others